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Новое Космическое Раскрытие - Наблюдения и Мысли о Новом Утвержденном Свидетельстве Свидетелей





Серия "Космическое Раскрытие" была моей любимой с самого начала своего существования. Она представляла некоторые из самых замечательных и поразительных свидетельств того, что сообщество искателей правды слышало до сих пор, и те люди, которые выступали на шоу, были одними из самых уважаемых и хорошо известных в сообществах НЛО и искателей правды.

Шоу заработало уважение многих зрителей и пробуждало зрителей к возможностям черных проектов, секретных операций, внеземной жизни и передовых технологий. До этого момента серия была необыкновенно яркой. Однако сейчас кажется, что шоу повернуло в тревожащем направлении.

Скептическая перспектива

Если говорить откровенно, я не доверяю полностью свидетельству предполагаемого разоблачителя Джейсона Райса, и для этого есть ряд причин. Однако я на самом деле полагаю, что мы можем узнать немного о различении и адекватной оценке потенциальных осведомителей через их показания. Через отмечание контраста между свидетельством Райса и тем, что мы слышали в прошлых эпизодах, мы могли бы изучить всевозможные отличия между подлинными и фальшивыми разоблачителями.

Мы можем понимать, что любое надежное исследование или логическая последовательность будут настолько сильным, насколько крепко его самое слабое звено. Любая подробность в отчете осведомителя и любое сделанное в нем заявление должны соответствовать всем остальным пункткам самого отчета и по значительным количествам пунктов с отчетами от других проверенных источников.

Хотя у меня нет инсайдерской информации о Джейсоне Райсе или нынешней ситуации вокруг шоу, я в действительности ощущаю, что мой предыдущий опыт анализа серии Космическое Раскрытие  - наряду с общим пониманием мира общественных деятелей в сообществе искателей правды - научила меня давать правильную оценку осведомителям. Фактически, мы многому научились благодаря нашему наблюдению за прошлыми раскрытиями, и я считаю, что, рассматривая с этой точки зрения, мы сможем многое узнать о последних эпизодах серии.

Поскольку мы оцениваем отчет Джейсона, давайте иметь в виду то, что мы слышали от проверенных источников до этого момента, и отмечаем любые сходства или различия, которые мы находим.


Первоначальные впечатления

Всякий раз, когда мы сталкиваемся с настоящим разоблачителем, есть ряд качеств, которые мы могли бы в нем рассмотреть. То, как он говорит, как себя ведёт, последовательность изложения и детали истории - все эти атрибуты составляют общее ощущение предполагаемого разоблачителя и могут сделать его либо выглядящим настоящим, либо похожим на полного обманщика.

Можно добавить, что есть определенный способ, которым говорят бывшие вояки. Ветераны, особенно имеющие техническую подготовку, обладают способом предоставления компетентной информации в качестве эксперта. Их речь выражает подобные особенности. Конечно, все говорят по-разному, но у настоящих ветеранов, обладающих техническим багажом (или исключительным способом развёртывания технических данных), имеется особый оттенок, если хотите .

В прошлых эпизодах те, кто выступал в качестве авторитетных и достоверных лиц, предоставляющих информацию, имели возможность говорить о своих соответствующих обязанностях, вроде высококвалифицированного эксперта. (И если их знания пришли от специальной подготовки и, как ожидается, воскрешались в памяти в военной выправке, это имело бы определенный смысл.) По их речи видно, что они высоко интеллегентны, и их речь, как правило, ясно показывает их  интеллект.

По моим наблюдениям, у Джейсона Райса есть манера выражаться кажущимся сложным слогом тут и там. Однако его выговор или различные высказывания не свидетельствуют об уровне эксперта с техническими знаними. Он, по-моему, больше кажется гражданским лицом и не выказывает никаких специальных знаний по темам, которые он обсуждает.


Настоящие разоблачители

В прошлом каждый разоблачитель, которого  серия "Космическое Раскрытие" популяризовала, как заслуживающего доверие, уже имел репутацию надежного источника, вышедшего со своими показаниями публично. По всей видимости, это была одна из основных причин, почему шоу проводило интервью с этими конкретными людьми.

Эти разоблачители уже публично выступали на конференциях и мероприятиях, которые позволяли им общаться и сравнивать свои записи с другими разоблачителями. У них обычно были веб-сайты, аккаунты в социальных сетях, записанные интервью и существенный список продуктивности вплоть до того момента, когда Гайя пришла к ним. Это, я полагаю, было основной причиной, почему Гайя  приглашала их в качестве гостей в свою программу прежде всего. По крайней мере, такова была модель, пока этот новый предполагаемый разоблачитель не появился на шоу.

Почему Гайа изменила такой первоначально надежный стандарт и решила взять интервью у личности без прошлого?

Есть много моментов, которые мы могли бы обсудить, как несоответствия в истории Джейсона, но прежде всего, давайте обсудим тему, которая, по моему мнению, перенесет эту дискуссию в видение. Давайте поговорим о Голливуде.


Слово в Голливуде

Подлинные разоблачители обычно предлагают ряд деталей, которые кажутся случайными оговорками и не имеющими отношения к истории. Однако эти детали могут помогать демонстрации того, что человек говорит от настоящих воспоминаний, а не просто пытается развлечь аудиторию фантастическими рассказами. Этот контраст между достоверным свидетельством и сфабрикованным содержанием подобен контрасту между анекдотом, который нам рассказал друг, и вымышленными историями, которые мы видим в последнем вышедшем на экраны голливудском фильме.

Как известно, индустрия голливудских фильмов существует для развлечения. Каждая созданная ими постановка предназначена для того, чтобы захватывать и привлекать внимание аудитории в течение длительного периода времени, чтобы к концу постановки зрители были в некоторой степени удовлетворены потраченными деньгами. По крайней мере, это то, для чего индустрия развлечений предназначена.

В настоящее время кажется очевидным, что индустрия развлечений имеет скорее политическую направленность, чем фактическое качество контента. Похоже, что для современных видов развлечений скорее существует откровенная пропаганда и манипулятивные цели, стоящие за ними, чем реальное стремление к качеству. Короче говоря, границы между политической манипуляцией или пропагандой и безобидными развлечениями больше не существует. Эти два движущих мотива теперь одно и то же.

Еще одним странным качеством современного кино и индустрии развлечений является то, что у него есть способ накладывать вместе элементы из созданных раннее произведений, которые гораздо выше по качеству, чем современные фильмы. В то же время эта франкенштейновская стряпня, как представляется, не обладает способностью вносить какие-либо новые ценности в творческий подход индустрии развлечений.

Сегодня создают ремейк на римейке, и все же не обнаруживается никакой глубины наполнения в какой бы то ни было постановке. Похоже, что в современных фильмах не включаются никакие моральные или этические ценности. (Мы могли бы вспомнить, как эти ценности когда-то включались в фильм и помогали в повышении человеческого сознания, по крайней мере, до некоторой степени). Вместо этого мы видим преувеличенные или перефразированные клише, которые не дают никакого реального дополнения к обычному опыту кинозрителей. На самом деле, часто современные фильмы демонстрируют удивительное незнание структуры истории и развития персонажа - даже до такой степени, что зрители остаются в замешательстве и разочаровании, когда заканчивается фильм.

Возможно, именно это отсутствие глубины в нынешнем кинематографическом содержании способствовало уменьшению выпуска голливудской продукции (помимо повальной эпидемии педофилии). Но почему мы об этом говорим?

Причина, по которой я упоминаю про эти наблюдения о Голливуде, связана с тем, что (и мне жаль это говорить, но...) - это общее отсутствие развития, отсутствие глубины истории и общее пустое содержание очень похожи на проблемы, которые я наблюдал в истории Джейсона Райса.

В их работах имеется определенный уровень понимания хорошо написанного шоу. Они, как правило, могут смотреть на жизнь по-другому - таким образом, что это гораздо более детализировано и восприимчиво, чем большинство людей могут наблюдать. Когда рассказывается о деталях истинных жизненных событий, это подробное содержание приходит естественным образом, поскольку жизнь обычно предлагает нам, казалось бы, бесконечный набор опыта для пересказа другим. Каждый раз, когда мы расспрашиваем истинного переживателя о его жизни, мы можем получить новые подробности, которые согласуются со всеми остальными, которыми он делился в прошлом. (И, конечно, по мере того, как мы задаем эти вопросы, мы можем быть внимательны, чтобы наблюдать за языком тела человека, когда он отвечает).

Услышав историю Джейсона, кажется очевидным, что в его отчете не было элемента связности, который имеют другие отчеты из серии  Космическое Раскрытие . Добавлю, что и элемент истинности, по-видимому, почти отсутствовал. Не столько обсуждаемые темы были тем, во что мне трудно было поверить. Скорее, это был беспорядочный способ, которым история Джейсона развивалась. Казалось, что его рассказ был соткан из фрагментов чужих свидетельств.


Вторичность материала

Когда Джейсон впервые начинал говорить, было трудно понять, откуда он исходит. В его истории, казалось, не было деталей, которые мы ожидали от того, кто говорит о реальных переживаниях из памяти. Вместо того, чтобы вести себя, как кто-то, рассказывающий свою историю жизни, Джейсон, казалось, читал заранее написанный сценарий. Казалось, что у него была последовательность событий для прочтения и простого перехода от одной темы к другой.

Очень мало внимания было уделено его реальной жизни, детству и тому, что публика могла бы счесть обычными составными частями такой истории. Кроме того, в отчете Джейсона не было никакой глубины, и при просмотре многие детали в нем просто не обретали смысла.

Общая история, казалось, была рассчитана на привлечение внимания аудитории, подобно обычному фильму или комиксу, но последовательность не включала много существенного материала. На самом деле, все, чем делился Джейсон, было не на много больше, чем пересказ предыдущего материала (из Космического Раскрытия), либо информация, которую легко получить в результате нескольких запросов в итернете.

Например, Джейсон утверждает, что попал на военную базу после поспешного подписания несколько документов. Он говорит о том, что его привели к лифту, на котором он и командующий офицер спустились в подземный туннель. Затем он утверждает, что он прокатился по подземной туннельной системе, подобно другим историям, о которых мы уже слышали. Затем в какой-то момент поездки он прошел тест, где он был удивлен внезапным присутствием «чужого», как он выразился. (Мне показалось странным, что инсайдер использовал бы такой уничижительный термин вместо тех технических терминов, которые мы слышали от проверенных разоблачителей).

Этот отчет Джейсона, возможно, был достойным внимания, если бы та же самая последовательность событий не была рассказана несколько месяцев назад разоблачителем Клиффордом Стоуном . Одно дело - услышать похожий отчет от нового разоблачителя. Другое дело, выслушать историю от другого человека, переработанную и повторно используемую столь точно. Я понимаю, что разные разоблачители могут иметь похожие впечатления. Однако мы должны также учитывать тот факт, что любой член аудитории мог бы рассказать ту же историю, что и Джейсон. Любой из нас мог бы прочитать историю Клиффорда Стоуна с небольшими отклонениями, а затем утверждать, что он является бывшим оперативником ТКП . Однако это не подтверждало бы нашу легитимность, как разоблачителей.

Другая деталь, которая, по-видимому, была заимствована из других источников, - это сияющий потолок со светом, который, кажется, не имеет естественного источника. Использовалась та же терминология, что и у двух других разоблачителей (это были Дэвид Адэйр и Пит Питерсон).

Еще более показательным был факт, что,  по утверждению Джейсона, он был интуитивным эмпатом, завербованным для программы MILAB в раннем возрасте, и что прошел серьезную подготовку в детстве. Слушая эти утверждения, было легко подумать о показаниях Кори Гуда и о том, насколько похожи эти два отчета. Фактически, судя по всему, Джейсон, видимо, скопировал буквально предысторию Гуда с некоторыми вариациями. Когда так много деталей из этого свидетельства не только связаны, но кажутся запечатленными в прошлых историях, это может лишить легитимности утверждения подобного "разоблачителя" в глазах критиков.  Это делает его похожим на самозванца, и с данного момента мы все еще пытаемся устранить эту возможность.

Предыдущие свидетельства исходили от известных личностей, которые имели самостоятельные доказательства о себе. На данный момент у нас даже нет достаточных доказательств о существовании такой персоны, как Джейсон Райс, не говоря уже о его профессиональном прошлом. Следовательно, его история зиждется на непрочном фундаменте.


Резонанс Шумана

В показаниях Джейсона также есть ряд деталей, которые не имеют логического смысла. Во-первых, это поездка в капсуле, которая, как он утверждает, вывезла его на другую планету. Самым яркий пример, который кажется не имеющим смысла, это его утверждение о том, что он, естественным образом смог ощутить изменение планетарного резонанса Шумана . На мой взгляд, это могло бы произвести сильное впечатление, если бы оно было объяснено более обстоятельно, чтобы продемонстрировать уникальные знания по этому вопросу. На самом деле, мне было очень удивительно, что не было никакого технического обсуждения этой способности или физики.

Когда мы рассматриваем способность воспринимать электромагнитные частоты, особенно те, которые настолько небольшие, что не поддаются обнаружению большинством организмов (сверхнизкие частоты), - мы должны учитывать тот факт, что мы живем в таком сильном электромагнитном загрязнении, что подобная способность, вероятно, создавала бы большие затруднения в жизни человека (если он вообще смог бы действовать в такой среде).

Мы могли бы вспомнить тот факт, что многие дети, страдающие аутизмом, не могут нормально действовать  на определенных частотах флуоресцентного света. Они не способны сохранять свое самообладание из-за чрезмерного раздражения этим искусственным светом их глаз, что обычно вызывает сильную боль. Подобные ощущения создают сенсорную перегрузку, и дети закрывают глаза и кричат от боли или корчатся в припадке, пока раздражающее воздействие не будет прекращено.

Если кто-то может воспринимать электромагнитные частоты, настолько низкие, как резонанс Шумана , это будет означать, что он также сможет ощущать перезагруженность электромагнитного загрязнения, которое существует почти везде в пригородной и городской среде. (Если нет, то потребуется обширное и научно обоснованное объяснение). Это, скорее всего, сделает его неспособным действовать в любом технологически развитом районе на планете. Конечно, это только теория. Тем не менее, я нахожу очень странным, что эти потенциальные проблемы не рассматривались во время этого интервью.

В целом, утверждение об особой способности «ощущать резонанс Шумана» вместо простого утверждения о чувствительности к электромагнитным частотам кажется странным (особенно  без попытки представить какую-либо научную основу для обоснования подобного утверждения). Речь не идет об ослаблении способности ощущать другие сверхнизкие частоты, такие как резонанс Шумана, но в этом контексте это, на мой взгляд, просто кажется дешёвой попыткой произвести впечатление на аудиторию.


Портал

Во время интервью с Джейсоном Райсом было несколько моментов, которые заставили меня почесать затылок. Однако, когда я услышал слова о портале в подземной трубе, я стал особенно подозрительным. Это в действительности была идея, которую я написал всего за пару месяцев до этого эпизода. Это не означает, что моя статья была единственным местом, откуда Джейсон мог получить эту идею. Это просто означает, что такая концепция легко может возникнуть у обычного человека и не нужно быть настоящим инсайдером, чтобы преподнести подобную концепцию.

Ниже приведен фрагмент статьи с сайта DTM. Как вы можете видеть, статья была опубликована в июле этого года.


  • "Если бы мы вообразили этот полый подземный туннель под Северной Америкой, мы могли бы предположить, что в определенных точках существуют разные врата или порталы. Эти порталы могут оставаться неактивными в течение большей части времени. Однако, когда возникает потребность для пассажиров этих капсул путешествовать на другие планеты, эти порталы могут быть активированы. Когда капсула проходит через портал системы подземных туннелей на одной планете к туннелю на другой планете, пассажиры, вряд ли в основном способны осознать изменение своего местоположения".


http://www.discerningthemystery.com/2018/07/cosmic-disclosure-with-david-wilcock.html

Опять же, почти каждый мог бы додуматься до этой идеи. Просто представляется странным, что эта деталь — вместе со всем отчетом Джейсона - может быть так легко состряпан.

Для ясности, здесь нет никакого личного выпада. Я ничего не имею против этого человека. И у меня нет ничего, кроме уважения к Джею Вайднеру. Однако, мне интересно, как мог бы рассказать настоящий осведомитель из реально существующей тайной космической программы такую позаимствованную истории и как эта история была представлена в качестве правдивой в последней сезонной серии  Космического Раскрытия.


«Стрельба на поражение»

Возможно, одним из самых очевидных недостатков этой истории было объяснение Джейсоном спуска на лифте к подземной железнодорожной системе. Он утверждал, что во время этой поездки на лифте офицер находился рядом с ним и был готов застрелить его из-за случившегося головокружения. Я никогда не слышал об опасном случае головокружения, которое могло бы привести человека в агрессивное состояние, так, чтобы единственным средством остановить его был бы прямой выстрел в сердце.

Прежде всего, головокружение лечится или, по крайней мере, поддаётся лечению. В крайнем случае можно просто посидеть или полежать, чтобы уменьшить эффект (вопрос от переводчика: почему в лифте не было даже простого сиденья?). Кроме того, существуют лекарства, предназначенные для лечения последствий этой проблемы, и они могли бы легко убрать необходимость сопровождающего офицера застреливать новобранца, испытывающего это ощущение. Плюс, учитывая тот факт, что случай головокружения был совершенно прогнозируем, не было логической причины реагировать на столь предсказуемую ситуацию стрельбой на поражение.



Если весь вопрос в другой проблеме, вызывавшая временное помрачение рассудка у новобранцев, то это была бы другая проблема. Однако для избежания всего этого можно было бы предложить легкое решение, просто усыпив объект, пока поездка на лифте не окончилась бы. Затем его можно было бы доставить в лазарет, зону ожидания или обратно домой после стирания памяти. В целом,  не имеет никакого логического смысла для какой-либо военной или ведущей черные операции организации иметь проблемы с набором высоко интеллектуальных работников, пропускать их через подписание кучи документов только для того, чтобы бессмысленно убить их через несколько минут после того, как они пройдут через дверь.

На мой взгляд, эта деталь истории казалась дешевой и неуместной - как будто это была плохая попытка привлечь внимание зрителей. В других отчетах никогда не говорилось о каких-либо случаях явной опасности. Опасность была подразумеваемой и чрезвычайно тонкой.

Согласно показаниям проверенных осведомителей, обычно наблюдается медленный и постепенный вводный период для каждого новичка, выбираемого для работы в черных проектах. К тому времени, когда любой новобранец подходит к моменту  своего знакомства с делами высокой странности, их личности уже хорошо известны начальству. Никогда не было никаких отчетов о необходимости убивать новичков из-за временных медицинских проблем, особенно учитывая тот факт, что все эти проблемы были известны до знакомства их с необычными обстоятельствами.

Это утверждение - наряду с тем фактом, что ни одно из этих утверждений никогда не подвергалась сомнению во время предполагаемого процесса проверки - заставила меня сомневаться в том, что интервью с Джейсоном было такого же качества, как мы ожидали от предыдущих осведомителей в серии Космическое Раскрытие .
Ничего нового

В этом интервью не было никаких новых материалов. Несмотря на то, что Джейсон упомянул управляемый сознанием дельтаплан, плазменную винтовку и карабин, ничто из этого не кажется производящим глубокое впечатление. Они либо кажутся несущественными, либо они были раскрыты общественности и стали общеизвестным фактом для любого поклонника компьютерных игр или научной фантастики. Фактически, плазменная винтовка кажется пришедшей непосредственно из игр, особенно из серии Halo. Обратите внимание на терминологию, используемую в определение Галлопедии ниже.




«Плазменная винтовка - это оружие ближнего и дальнего радиуса действия, и, как таковое, может нанести очень большой урон в этом диапазоне. Винтовка чрезвычайно эффективна при убийстве«мягких»целей, при этом наносит смертельные повреждения тяжелобронированнымой целям. Пехотинцы, оснащенные винтовками Type-25, могут остановить продвижение пехоты противника благодаря своей способности вести непрерывный подавляющий огонь».

https://www.halopedia.org/Type-25_plasma_rifle


Дело в том, что современные игры настолько натуралистичны, что они в действительности содержат настоящие военные знания, технологии и терминологию. Это может обычно предъявлять высокие требования к тем, кто утверждает, что обладает инсайдерскими знаниями. Другими словами, эти осведомители должны демонстрировать уровень познаний, превышающий уровень средней видеоигры.

Учитывая тот факт, что мы пытаемся сделать свой собственный процесс проверки здесь, следует отметить, что Джейсон Райс не представил никакой информации, которую обычный человек не смог бы получить самостоятельно, либо наблюдая за предыдущими сезонами Космического Раскрытия , либо просматривая несколько фильмов типа Джеймса Бонда, либо играя в одну из игр Halo.

(окончание статьи см. в следующем комментарии)

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Новое Космическое Раскрытие - Наблюдения и Мысли о Новом Утвержденном Свидетельстве Свидетелей

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«Боевые дельтапланы»

Был еще один аспект этой истории, о котором я, к сожалению, должен сказать, что он еще более поразил меня, чем испытание на лифте. Это, конечно же, его утверждение о том, что дельтапланы были выбраны ТКП в качестве транспортного средства для атаки тренировочной цели. Существует ряд причин, по которым попытка использования даже предположительно высокотехнологичных дельтапланов в качестве стрелкового оружия во время любого конфликта является определённо дикой идеей. Однако мы должны также указать, что дельтапланы действительно использовались в последние дни второй мировой войны.

В середине 1940-х годов различные военные силы изучали возможность замены выброса десанта на более практичные методы доставки личного состава на поле битвы. Проблема с парашютистами состояла в том, что когда их сбрасывали с самолета, их разносило ветром на большом пространстве. Они приземлялись по сути случайным образом и обычно вдали от важного сборочного оборудования, необходимого для нападения.

Позже на войне было принято решение использовать дельтапланы с большой грузоподъёмностью для более эффективной доставки личного состава. Таким образом, воинское подразделение можно было доставлять в более локализованные районы битвы. Эти дельтапланы также обеспечивали площадку для перевозки нескольких тысяч фунтов груза.

Дельтапланы были полезны в течение ряда лет во время войны для транспортных целей. Однако ни один из этих дельтапланов никогда не имел никакого вооружения, поскольку дополнительный вес уменьшил бы его грузоподъёмность. К тому же попытка использовать дельтапланы в качестве стрелкового оружия, по сути, была бы самоубийственной. Они ограничены в возможности маневрировать, а это означает, что любой, кто попытался бы вести обменный огонь с наземными целями, сам становился бы легкой мишенью. Если только противник не оставался бы стоять неподвижно, как статуя, и не позволял бы нападающим выкашивать себя, в ином случае не имеется никакой защиты для легкого летального аппарата противостоять противовоздушному огню.

Кажется, нет никаких оснований для осуществления атаки со стороны флотилии дельтапланов ни тогда, ни сейчас. В высокотехнологичном мире внеземных сражений можно было бы подумать, что методы второй мировой войны были бы несколько устаревшими, верно?

К тому же, существует множество недостатков при попытке использовать крылатые летающие аппараты на различных планетах с разными видами атмосферы. Вообще говоря, я не вижу причин, чтобы персонал ТКП решил использовать такой непредсказуемый и зависящий от погоды способ нападения, особенно имеющий такую медленную воздушную скорость. Представьте, что вы пытаетесь уклониться от зенитного огня противника, двигаясь со скоростью 60-100 миль в час (относительно атмосферы Земли). Если не брать во внимание суицидальное пикирование, это скорость, с которой вам пришлось бы иметь дело. Другими словами, вы стали бы мишенью для стрельбы. (Есть случаи, когда дельтапланисты могут использовать потоки воздуха для более быстрого движения, чем обычное планирование. Однако возможность делать это полностью зависела бы от погодных условий и местоположения).

Зачем стратегам битв Тайной Космической программы выбирать дельтапланы, когда один самолет TR-3B или подобного рода электронно-гравитационный корабль может просто пролететь и вывести из строя электронику всегоа пространства внизу, используя частотную технологию? В крайнем случае, более практично использовать бронированный транспорт, который мог бы очистить место тяжелым огнем, а затем доставить десант на поле битвы.

Предположение об использовании дельтапланов в качестве ударной силы поражает меня, как крайне расточительное, непрактичное и смехотворное на нескольких уровнях. Это попахивает еще одной попыткой соригинальничать и скорее говорит о малой образованности в стратегии реального боя. Хотя я не являюсь экспертом в области военного искусства, отсутствие общей безопасности в этом случае кажется очевидным . Проще говоря, «боевые дельтапланы» поражают меня, как оксюморон.

Культура разоблачителей

Согласно моим познаниям о проверенных разоблачителях, в этой культуре ветеранов черных операций существует определенный стандарт . У них есть, как правило, острое чувство интуиции, которое обычно происходит из опыта работы с многочисленными типами людей (а иногда с инопланетянами). Из того, что я наблюдал, настоящие инсайдеры не доверяют всецело секретным сведениям друг друга, когда они впервые встречаются. Как правило, происходит процесс личной проверки, при которой каждый опрашивает предполагаемых знакомых или коллег, чтобы проверить, действительно ли тот заслуживает доверия.

Также имеет смысл, что разоблачители хотят сравнивать свою собственную информацию с информацией других, не только ради проверки друг друга на легитимность, но и для выяснения большей картины, связанной с проектами, в которых они принимали участие во время своего времени службы. Кажется очень редко, чтобы какой-нибудь настоящий разоблачитель вышел бы вперед и о нём никто ничего бы не знал. Это просто потому, что настоящие разоблачители, как правило, активны в своих усилиях по раскрытию правды, без разницы, действуют ли они в одиночку или работают с другими.

Настоящий разоблачитель знает, насколько опасно это говорить. Они часто узнают из первых рук, что может случиться с теми, кто слишком далеко переходит черту. Это общеизвестно среди настоящих источников и часто можно увидеть по языку тела человека. Дело в том, что доверие есть главная вещь в области показаний разоблачителей. Это означает, что любой действительный инсайдер, который приближается к источнику информации, будет крайне колеблющимся. Если они действительно выйдут вперед, они, скорее всего, сделают это только в том случае, если информационный источник заслуживает доверия.

Следует также заявить, что мы узнаем, действительно ли Джейсон Райс разоблачитель, насколько он взаимодействует с остальной частью сообщества разоблачителей, если он вообще это делает. Мы увидим, как проверенные разоблачители проверяют его знание и его способность оставаться последовательными.

Если Джейсон держится обособленно и отказывается взаимодействовать с любыми другими лицами (как мы видели в случае с Томом Делонгом), это предполагает, что он либо является мошенником, либо ему есть что скрывать от настоящих расследователей. Однако, если он выбирает взаимодействовать и проходит тест на запах, это другое дело.

Это подводит нас к вопросу о доверии к Гайи .


Гайя и доверие

Мы можем думать о серии Космическое Раскрытие в целом и помнить, что изначально это были Дэвид Уилкок и Кори Гуд, которые в основном создали это шоу и были сутью серии. Каждый эпизод был популярен не столько из-за Гайи , сколько из-за качества контента, которое мастерство Дэвида и показания Кори вносило в серии.

Следуя за Гудом, множество разоблачителей становились гостями шоу, каждый со своей собственной историей, что помогло привнести новое измерение в реальность ТКП.

Позже, Эмери Смит - еще один авторитетный источник с впечатляющим резюме - вышел вперед и добавил новый уровень и глубину в серию. Дело в том, что не столько Гайя убедила инсайдеров, таких, как Кори и Эмери, выйти вперед,- судя по всему, это был именно Дэвид Уилкок и доверительные отношения, которые он смог построить со своими инсайдерами, которые убедили их поделиться своими свидетельствами с более широкой аудиторией.


Когда эти публичные лица вышли вперед, у Гайи впервые был такой опыт. Насколько мне известно, на шоу этой студии никогда не было разоблачителей черных проектов в качестве гостей. У них были разные личности из сообщества искателей правды, которые были достаточно интересны, но степень секретной информации, раскрываемой инсайдерами ТКП в серии Космическое Раскрытие, кажется намного важнее для обсуждения вопросов раскрытия.

До этого момента мы не видели, чтобы Гайя привлекала подобный уровень качества секретного материала, который мы наблюдали ранее в серии Космическое Раскрытие . Даже с Кори и Эмери, опять же, соединительным фактором, по-видимому, был Дэвид Уилкок. Это заставляет меня полагать, что доверие изнутри сообщества черных операций зиждется на Дэвиде и вовсе не на Гайи .

К тому же, в настоящее время существует много неопределенности вокруг Гайи . Не вдаваясь в подробности, есть множество вопросов, связанных с недавними изменениями, и именно эти вопросы могут привести к тому, что новые и настоящие разоблачители станут держаться в стороне. Если это правда, ситуация может склонить тех, кто принимает решения в отношении шоу (новых польских хозяев Гайи, которые, по утверждению некоторых инсайдеров вроде Альфреда Вебре, имеют связи с сатанисткими кругами Польши и США,. примечание переводчика), ослабить процесс проверки, и тогда на шоу могут появиться сомнительные и, возможно, самозваные разоблачители, чтобы продолжить серию.

Возможно, в какой-то момент в будущем Гайя сможет дать объяснение, почему были сделаны столь видимые изменения. Это, возможно, успокоит возможных настоящих осведомителей по отношению их возможности приблизиться к Гайи и использовать эту площадку для обмена своей информацией. Возможно, в этот момент мы увидим, что в серии появятся более достоверные лица, желающие поделиться своими опытами. Однако в настоящий момент я не верю, что Джейсон Райс - один из них.


Где проверка?

Мы знаем из прошлых эпизодов «Космического раскрытия» и из показаний Кори Гуда, насколько Гайя в прошлом тщательно наблюдала за разоблачителями. По словам Гуда, одна из главных причин, по которой он выкладывал свои отчеты до того, как рассказать о них на шоу, была та, чтобы продюсеры могли убедиться в последовательности его свидетельства.

Когда человек лжёт, ему сложно придерживаться точности в подробностях своего обмана. Следовательно, лгуна легко обнаружить из-за его неспособности быть последовательным в своей истории с течением времени. Вот почему Дэвид Уилкок перескакивал с одной темы на другую во время интервью с Гудом. По словам Уилкока, он действительно делал это, чтобы проверить последовательность и честность Кори. И, как мы видели, Кори выдержал и то, и другое.

С Джейсоном Райсом это не так. На самом деле, из того, что мы увидели на шоу, не было никакой проверки за всё время интервью Джейсона, несмотря на название эпизода. Кажется, не было даже условия, чтобы Джейсон описывал всё, что он испытывал, в подробностях - и, как представляется, каких-либо методов опроса, применяемых в процессе интервьюирования. Происходит только эта неформальная с виду беседа, в которой Джей, казалось, даже помогал Райсу в продвижении его истории. Это не убеждает меня, как способ поддерживания целостности в свидетельстве или доверия к шоу.

Опять же, я спрашиваю: «Для чего такие изменения?»


Разбавление информационной базы

Если те, кто в настоящее время стоят за "Космическим Раскрытием", решили снизить свои стандарты, это прискорбно. Понятно, что им хотелось бы сохранить доходную часть и зрительскую аудиторию, которые предоставляла эта серия, приносящая хорошую прибыль. Однако, как мне кажется, заставлять серию насильно продолжаться после того, как весь ее исполнительский состав уволился, приносит медвежью услугу серии и усилиям по раскрытию информации.

С другой стороны, если этот новый разоблачитель не настоящий, каким он, по-видимому, и является, это может фактически помогать давать противовес подлинным и значимым источникам, которые вышли вперёд, чтобы поделиться своими подкрепляющими друг друга свидетельствами. Это верно, что даже ложное свидетельство может быть полезно для аудитории. Однако я боюсь, что это может подорвать доверие к Гайи в области раскрытия информации. Таким образом, может быть, лучше всего закончить серию и начать создавать записи в других форматах?

Если только те, кто принимают решения и стоят за серией, не желают рискнуть причинением вреда усилиям по раскрытию истины и откровений для планеты, и это могло бы быть лучшим способом действий.


Дополнительные вопросы

Есть ряд оставшихся без ответа и, тем не менее, важных вопросов, которые либо никогда не задавались и не поднимались во время этого интервью Джейсона. Возможно, находя ответы сами, мы сможем помочь разрешить странности, которые мы смогли увидеть в процессе интервьюирования.

Кто осуществлял проверку на полиграфе? Мы можем знать, что если бы кто-то серьезно подходил к получении правды по какому-либо вопросу и он хотел бы, чтобы результаты его проверки заслуживали доверия, он использовал бы проверку на полиграфе независимым источником, чтобы не было возможности быть пристрастным в получении конечного результата. Как мы знаем, Гайя заинтересована в продолжении шоу. Следовательно, их собственный полиграф не будет адекватным средством оценки правды.

Почему никто из предыдущих разоблачителей не проходил проверку на полиграфе и почему проверка Джейсона кажется отрепетированным спектаклем?

Почему вопросы во время интервьюирования Джейсона были настолько простыми и общими? Как было сказано ранее, любая заслуживающая уважение сессия расследования будет включать в себя тщательную серию вопросов, представленных в непредсказуемом порядке. Эти вопросы призваны казаться отличными друг от друга, но на самом деле предназначены для того, чтобы запрашивать одну и ту же информацию с использованием разных слов. В то же время исследователя интересовало бы чтение языка тела для обнаружения любых признаков обмана, нечестности или несогласованности любого рода.

Если бы интервьюер намеревался по-настоящему проверить кого-то, эти методы, вероятно, были бы важным компонентом. Однако это не то, что мы увидели во время интервью с Джейсоном Райсом.

Почему Джейсон в определённых выражениях говорит о своих предположительно туманных воспоминаниях? Это было еще одно несоответствие, не имевшее для меня никакого смысла. Когда кто-то полностью уверен в своих словесных формулировках и все же работает над тем, чтобы собрать вместе свои воспоминания, которые предположительно были стерты, в его свидетельстве обычно присутствует достаточно выраженный уровень подлинной неопределенности. Однако у Джейсона не было такого качества. Его объяснения были определенными, что, по-видимому, противоречило неопределенности его истории. Это одно из тонких различий, которое может помочь нам отличать разницу между лицами, имевшими подлинный опыт, и теми, кто просто рассказывает интересную историю.


Доказательство и подтверждение

По всей видимости, существуют определенные соответствия в-показаниях (как свидетельских, так и вещественных), которые до сих пор показывали предыдущие разоблачители в серии. Конечно, каждое лицо имеет свою индивидуальность и способ передачи своего свидетельства. Однако эта передача в значительной степени дублировалась, что могло помочь нам проверять достоверность каждого свидетельства.

Кори Гуд представил доказательства своей истории работы, прошлой деятельности, военной службы, медицинских записей и щекотливой документации по темам проходимых червоточин, звездных врат и концепции темной энергии . Он также демонстрирует исключительные знания, выходящие за границы известного многим военнослужащим с подобным рангом и историей службы. К тому же способность Кори прогнозировать будущие события в соответствии с данными разведки ТКП пока не имеет себе равных. Эти моменты наряду с многочисленными случаями преследования и слежки со стороны гражданских и военных лиц помогают доказать подлинность и надежность Гуда для предоставления секретных данных о ТКП.

Клиффорд Стоун предоставил историю работы, записи военной службы, документы по инопланетянам и различным темам, которым гражданское население не посвящалось. Он также продемонстрировал знания о жизни и технологиях инопланетян, которые подтверждаются многими отчетами других известных разоблачителей.

Покойный Уильям Томпкинс, возможно, имеет самую заметную историю из всех разоблачителей, которых мы встречали до сих пор. Томпкинс смог обрисовать весь свой опыт, начиная с детства и до взрослой жизни и военной службы. У него были записи, новостные отчеты, в которых он был фигурировал, и служебные записи о рабочих местах и должностях, которые он занимал.

Томпкинс также представил технические чертежи, которые он выполнял для космических кораблей и носителей, которые он проектировал. Это помогло подтверждать утверждения, которые Томпкинс делал о своем опыте участия в операциях ТКП.

Известный доктор Пит Питерсон не нуждается в большом представлении. Благодаря качеству его работы, его интервью и показания говорят сами за себя. Умственные способности, с которыми Петерсон говорит, наряду с предоставляемой секретной информацией придают достоверность темам, которые он обсуждает. Согласно его показаниям, он имеет великолепное образование и использовал свои знания по ряду черных проектов, а также во многих других проектах в государственном секторе.

Учитывая отчеты, которые давал доктор Питерсон, а также жестокий ответ, который показал ему истеблишмент , ясно, что Питерсон не только имел удивительные опыты в этих черных проектах, но и что он разными способами по-прежнему имеет связи с теми, кто находится внутри них.

Эти настоящие разоблачители, как и многие другие, приоткрыли дверь бесчисленному множеству людей узнать о некоторых из самых таинственных существующих организаций на нашей планете и за ее пределами.


Предсказания и тревоги

У нас есть все эти замечательные лица в сообществе раскрытия, и затем мы имеем Джейсона Райса. У Джейсона нет истории, нет резюме, нет никаких записей, нет демонстрации независимых знаний, нет никаких аккаунтов в интернете или соцсетях для общения, а также никаких подтверждений или доказательств того, что он служил в каком бы то ни было качестве в какой-либо операции ТКП. Мне не хотелось бы неуважительно говорить о нём, но повторюсь, мы даже не знаем, является ли «Джейсон Райс» настоящим именем этого человека.

Предоставляемые в других случаях, мы могли бы дать индивидууму возможность представить такие доказательства, а некоторые могли бы не делать поспешных выводов, ожидая такую информацию. Тем не менее, факт, что эти совмещённые последовательности представлены, как ознакомление, кажется странным. К тому же, включение предполагаемого полиграфа и гипнотической регрессии скорее напоминает драматическую постановку, чем настоящую проверку на подтверждение. Это было в первый раз, когда я почувствовал, что вижу спектакль, наблюдая за этой серией.

Мы могли бы также вспомнить, что одно из предсказаний, которое Кори делал в прошлом, заключалось в том, что существуют планы у определённых кругов в отношении темы суперсолдат тайной космической программы по её дискредитации. Другими словами, имелись планы у сторонников частичного раскрытия информации, которые намеревались засорить рассказы подлинных участников ТКП ложными свидетельствами, чтобы показания истинных ветеранов оказались затерянными. Когда мы оцениваем показания Джейсона Райса, мы, возможно, захотим это принять во внимание, учитывая факт резких изменений, произошедших в серии Космическое Раскрытие незадолго до прибытия Джейсона.

Все подобные странные признаки этой презентации заставляют меня чувствовать, что определённые круги, стоящие за Гайей , пытаются сделать из мухи слона.

У нас есть этот товарищ, которого, честно говоря, можно заменить любым, кто представлял информацию, которую Гайя уже охватывала в прошлых эпизодах. К тому же, информация Джейсона содержит вопиющие логические недостатки, включенные в нее.

Затем этот человек предположительно оценивается известными специалистами в своей области. Однако вместо того, чтобы проверять Джейсона, эти люди оказались подстановкой для проверки, как будто их слава использовалась в качестве опоры для фактической проверки показаний Джейсона.

Мы могли бы объединить эти наблюдения с тем фактом, что владельцы Гайи пытаются приобрести авторские права на слово «раскрытие». Этот шаг заставляет задуматься, а действительно ли эти люди заинтересованы в том, чтобы помочь в общих усилиях по раскрытию информации в деле освобождения человечества. Вместо этого кажется, что определенные круги намереваются контролировать сценарий раскрытия и, возможно, препятствовать высвобождению некоторой информации.


Заявка на товарный знак для термина "Раскрытие информации"

Если это так, мы можем отметить тот факт, что это та же самая роль, которую корпоративные СМИ играли в контроле над информацией до сего времени. Завеса секретности и откровения полуправды были главной причиной неурядиц нашего мира до настоящего времени. И если есть какие-то попытки по фабрикованию еще большего количества этих полуправд, мне придется противостоять таким попыткам.

Честно говоря, я надеюсь, что я ошибаюсь в этих наблюдениях. Мне бы хотелось сказать, что у нас появился новый настоящий и заслуживающий доверие разоблачитель в лице Джейсона Райса. Однако наша должная осмотрительность обязывает нас быть скептически настроенными до тех пор, пока не появится причина доверять каким-либо свидетельствам. Некоторые могут согласиться с моими выводами здесь. А некоторые - нет. Нет необходимости всем соглашаться. Покуда мы понимаем свой процесс оценивания и имеем достаточную дисциплинированность, чтобы применять этот процесс старательно и объективно, это и есть наша задача.

Как я уже сказал, у меня нет инсайдерских знаний по этой ситуации. Эти наблюдения представляют только мои личные впечатления от эпизодов, представляющих Джейсона Райса. Вы, мой читатель, можете свободно наблюдать самостоятельно и делать свои собственные выводы.

Источник:http://www.discerningthemystery.com/2018/10/new-cosmic-disclosure-observations-and.html#more

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У кого-то стали раскрываться глаза на ту деятельность, которую осуществляют новые хозяева Гайи (кто не в курсе, это польские сатанисты). Именно поэтому Уилкок ушел оттуда, а Гуд удалил все транскрипты КР со своего сайта.
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@Сталкер пишет:У кого-то стали раскрываться глаза на ту деятельность, которую осуществляют новые хозяева Гайи (кто не в курсе, это польские сатанисты). Именно поэтому Уилкок ушел оттуда, а Гуд удалил все транскрипты КР со своего сайта.
А можно ли поподробнее об этом? Почему именно "сатанисты"? Из чего это следует?

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Альфред  Вебре (есть перевод его совместного интервью  Манифестируя Наше Новое Общество - совместное интервью Кобры с послом Семьи Красного Дракона, Альфредом Ламбремонт-Вебре и капитаном Максом Стилом):
 
 РАСКОЛ В ЭКЗОПОЛИТИЧЕСКОМ СООБЩЕСТВЕ – происходит и другой, более существенный раскол, между сатанистами и работниками света, который комментатирующие, похоже, не замечают в своих поверхностных оценках. Этот пост посвящен глубокому проникновению ЖИРКИ РЫСАВОГО, польского оскорбительного капиталиста с сатанинскими связями из Польши,  вражески захватившему телевизионную студию ГАЙЯ ТВ и "Контакт в пустыне". РЫСАВЫЙ пришел из сомнительных польских сатанинских денег, когда в 2016 году Макс Шпилит был убит в сатанинской стиле в Варшаве в 2016 году, незадолго до моего основного доклада в октябре  2016, который  я дал для конференции "Варшавская Правда", правда, ради безопасности удаленно. 4 мая 2017 года я узнал, что в настоящее время еще один из докладчиков  "Варшавской Правда" заболел  раком мозга, все из-за этих польских архонских сатанинских кругов, которые захватили ГАЙЯ ТВ, "Контакт в пустыне" и сейчас "Путешествие по древним пришельцам".
 
 Эти польские архонские сатанинские силы, действующие через ЖИРКУ РЫСАВОГО, польского владельца ГАЙИ , "Контакта в пустыне" и "Путешествия по древним пришельцам" с сомнительными польскими сатанинскими связями, которые сделали из Варшавы Город Убийств через сатанинскую смерть Макса Шпилита в 2016 году и с помощью биооружия рак мозга ведущего разоблачителя в мае 2017 года. Двое ведущих экзополитического мошенничества на ГАЙЯ ТВ, представленные владельцем с сатанисткими связями, по имеющимся данным, представлены под чужими именами! Кори Гуд - это ложное имя....
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Вебре можно понять и можно с ним поспорить. На Уилкока он злится, потому что тот типа утверждает (или за него утверждают), что он - инкарнация Кейси, а Вебре посвятил Кейси много времени и даже книгу опубликовал. В общем, не все ли равно, что настоящее имя Гуда - Джеймс Кори, вопрос лишь в том, почему они так долго участвовали в этом шоу. Сейчас понятно, после появления новых инсайдеров, что Гайя будет дискредитировать все то, о чем раньше говорили Гуд, Питерсон и ко.

ЗЫ. Я, наверное, заново переведу эту статью Эль Джамаля, с которой эта тема началась. Не люблю подстрочники.
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Elena777


Статья очень продуманная, убедительная. Мне тоже не понравился полиграф. Хотя регрессивный гипноз - это, наверное, нормальное желание узнать, когда появляются какие-то странные воспоминания. По поводу того, что его могли убить в лифте, не знаю, возможно, его бы просто ударили в качестве самозащиты или оружие было предупреждением. 
Далее, во 2-й части он достаточно много рассказывает о своем детстве и обучении в программе . Оно, правда, похоже на то, что Кори рассказывал, но это естественно, если он интуитивный эмпат. Плазменное ружье, которое упоминается в играх - что ж, многие игры используют то, что есть в реальности. Хотя я это замечание взяла на заметку.
 Дельтопланы там были с гравитационными рюкзаками, т.е. не те все-таки, какие во время 2-й мировой войны использовались. И он сказал, что они не предназначены для атаки. Возможно использование просто для тренировки. 
Нет присутствия в Интернете - Кори там тоже не было, пока он не стал выступать в КС. 
Но, пожалуй, самое главное - последний эпизод, где Райс рассказывает о взаимоотношениях немцев и Рептилоидов - чего им стоило, получить 20 акров на Марсе, Кабал и немцев, как немцы принудили Кабал  подписать договор, мы знали только о полетах НЛО над Вашингтоном, а там было еще нападение на военный корабль. О совместной работе США и СССР в космосе во время "холодной войны" Наконец,  каким образом эти страны заполучили программу стирания памяти. И во что им это обошлось. Согласно Райсу - взрыв Шаттла и Чернобыль.
В целом я согласна с вашим предупреждением об изменениях в Гайе, возможно даже захвате. Глубокая статья. И мы вполне еще можем увидеть липовых инсайдеров, которые будут смешивать дезинформацию с правдой. А сам Райс произвел на меня впечатление измотанного нервно человека, даже больного, страдающего, что естественно, если он проходил 2 раза программу "20 и назад". Я не могу исключать, что он настоящий.
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Aum Aya Heye

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Спасибо,Елена! Ваш подход - вдумчивый и основательный - очень симпатичен)))
Спасибо,Сталкер! Вы прояснили для меня многое в отношении студии Гайя ТВ!
Дополнительные материалы по этой теме ,думаю,будут актуальны и интересны не только мне.

Aestra


Редактор "ПкИ"
К сожалению многие вещи проходят за кулисами, вдали от человеческих глаз (новые хозяева у Гайи). Таким образом Гайя себя скомпрометировала в глазах многих ее зрителей. Будем надеяться, что Дэвид и Кори скоро найдут более надёжную площадку для передачи Космическое Раскрытие и мы сможем продолжать получать новую достоверную информацию о Раскрытии.
Спасибо, Андрей, за статьюУлыбка
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Ramani

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Андрей, хотела понять, кто автор основной статьи, похоже вы его не указали или я была не внимательна? 
Перейдя по указанной внизу ссылке, нашла что Автор: Шем Эль-Джамал
Это так, он является автором?

http://www.discerningthemystery.com/2018/10/new-cosmic-disclosure-observations-and.html#more
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Сталкер


Я уже писал, что автор - Эль Джамаль, и будет время, переведу заново его блог. Понятно , что это псевдоним
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Aum Aya Heye

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Да,очевидно,автор данной статьи подписался именно так: Эль Джамаль...

Aum Aya Heye

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ИТАК,ЭТО ПРОДОЛЖАЕТ ПРОИСХОДИТЬ!
Джейсон Райс выдает на гора массу информации об отколовшейся цивилизации нацистов. Выдает увлекательно и вдохновенно (речь о новом интервью Джейсона "ИСТОРИЯ ТАЙНОЙ КОСМИЧЕСКОЙ ПРОГРАММЫ")
Думается, уже здесь начинается более конкретная реализация Джейсоном своей "миссии". Напомним - мы считаем его "подставным инсайдером"...
Доказательства? Весь этот пост(см.выше) является собранием доказательств... Кроме того,"по горячим следам" нового интервью Джейсона Райса отметим,что именно высвобождение сенсационной информации об Антарктиде предсказывали еще год назад Д.Уилкок и К.Гуд в качестве "отвлекающего маневра" Кабалы, сводящего Раскрытие к Частичному Раскрытию...И вот оно - как на ладони!..
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Ramani

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@Сталкер пишет:Я уже писал, что автор - Эль Джамаль, и будет время, переведу заново его блог. Понятно , что это псевдоним
В название темы добавлю автора, как это мы обычно делаем
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Elena777


Я бы здесь уточнила, кто такие "мы", которые считают Райса подставным инсайдером? Вы пишете от имени всего форума? Позвольте вас поправить. Дэвид Уилкок говорил не так. Он говорил и писал, что сразу после появления его с Кори информацией об Атлантиде в СМИ появилась информация о затерянном древнем городе в Антарктиде. Не было заявлений, что придет подставной инсайдер, который будет рассказывать об Антарктиде. Напротив, Дэвид призывал новых инсайдеров выступить. И вполне нормально, что у них может быть  информация и об Антарктиде в том числе. Эмери Смит продолжает выступать на Гайе  с Д.Нури., то есть Гайя может давать и вполне правдивую информацию. Если же заведомо относится к каждому новому инсайдеру как к "засланному казачку",  то это и будет то, чего добивается Кабал - чтобы мы никому не доверяли. Я не увидела здесь никаких серьезных доказательств, что информация ложная. Тут многие пишут "слушайте сердцем". Поэтому,советую посмотреть сам ролик, посмотреть как Райс держится, посмотреть ему в глаза. Если хотите, пришлю вам ссылку (разрешается присылать 3 в месяц). Или здесь на форуме есть человек,который копирует и  размещает видео с Гайи, можно его попросить. Я бы сама поместила ссылку на форум, но она держится только 48 часов. А копировать пока не получилось.
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Aum Aya Heye

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Спасибо,Елена! "Мы" - это дурацкая привычка ,оставшаяся отголоском академического стиля. Не доглядел. Простите,пожалуйста! И другие поправки - конечно,если главное посмотреть в глаза и почувствовать сердцем))) Знаете,сколько человек,тысяч,сотен тысяч - смотрели Гитлеру в глаза и чувствовали сердцем чистоту его намерений? Я не сравниваю Райса с Гитлером. Я,если позволено это еще, иронизирую. Но Вас благодарю за корректные и искренние замечания!

Elena777


Честно говоря, сама не люблю это выражение. Столько раз его слышала вместо ответов на разных семинарах. Просто  мое отношение к Кори намного изменилось, когда я стала смотреть ролики( после 1,5 лет чтения на сайте), я стала лучше чувствовать и понимать его. А про Райса, мне кажется, еще недостаточно информации делать какие-то выводы. Пока ничего не царапнуло в его словах. Есть ответы на вопросы, например, мне всегда было интересно, как можно так точно рассчитать, чтобы стереть одну память и записать на это место другую. Но вот Райс объяснил, что полного совпадения нет, остаются пробелы, когда человек просто не помнит какой-то кусочек дня. Это и вызывало мучения, вопросы и у Райса и у Кори.

dimslav


Еще одно интервью, на этот раз с Нури, пока на английском






Спойлер:

NOORY: Welcome to another edition
of "Beyond Belief."
I'm George Noory.
And wait till you hear this incredible story
from Jason Rice.
Now Jason is an engineer, former second lieutenant
in the United States Army, a military person,
just like I was.
And he will be telling us a story about the Secret Space
Program...
not just that it exists but what his involvement in it
has been.
And it's going to knock your socks off.
Jason, welcome to Beyond Belief."
RICE: Thank you, George.
Appreciate it.
NOORY: What an amazing story.
Absolutely amazing.
Now, on the first glimpse of it, somebody
who will hear this story is going to say, oh, come on.
Secret Space Program?
This happened to him?
What do you say to somebody like that at this point?
RICE: At this point, I would say,
if I was talking to myself two years ago,
that would have had the same thoughts
NOORY: Really?
RICE: I would have.
NOORY: You would have doubted yourself?
RICE: I would have doubted it.
But having had the memories that have come back to me, the ones
that I've been able to regain and relive,
know for certain that the Secret Space Program
is for real, that there is a shadow government, that there
are things and technologies that are available that
aren't available to the rest of the population on this planet.
NOORY: Let's go back to the beginning that you can recall.
And then tell us about this recollection,
how this is coming back to you.
Because I also understand that you
have agreed to do some past life regress on and also
some other types of studies to pull this out of you.
You're not hiding anything.
But how did this first start coming?
I mean, did you have dreams, nightmares about a Secret Space
Program?
What happened?
RICE: Well, the very first indication
that something wasn't right, George,
was when I exited the US Army.
I had PTSD that I was suffering from.
And that was the first indication
that there was something wrong.
And not having a context to put it to,
it was just one of those strange things.
And so a number of years went by,
and I went in for outpatient surgery.
This was the second indication that something was off.
I was coming out of the anesthesia.
And I don't remember this, but I was told this
by the surgical staff.
And I was talking about my involvement in a space program,
being an astronaut and being out in space
and helping with the space program.
And they chalked it up to talking under the medication.
NOORY: Sure.
RICE: And I again had no context for it
And so I was like, OK, that was just one of those things.
I don't remember it anyway.
A number of years go by, and I start having things come back.
OK, think I remember doing this before,
but have no waking memory of this.
It felt lik' done it before.
An example would have been I had participated
in a hang gliding class in which you go into a Groupon
and you go with a bunch of other people.
NOORY: Sure.
RICE: So the first time I tried it,
was airborne and made it all the way down
to the end of the field, all 850 feet,
with 10 minutes of instruction.
Now, some people may chalk that up to, OK, you are
pretty good with your kinesthetics and your ability.
NOORY: Naturally.
RICE: Naturally, just jump on a hang glider.
No.
I knew as soon as got airborne,
I've done this before.
And that, again, was an out of place memory
that, OK, I don't recall ever doing this before
and have no record of it.
Years go by.
Again, I go through scuba training.
And the type of scuba mask that I bought
happened to be a full face mask.
And so I had that type of scuba mask because the work
I was doing at the time required that I needed to communicate
with the surface.
So it...
NOORY: So they're big masks.
RICE: It's a big mask.
It's a full face.
It's not a regulator in your* mouth where you can't talk.
And that was another memory flashback.
I've done this before.
But I've never had any certifications for scuba, much
less a full face mask for it.
NOORY: So you are having these deja vu experiences.
RICE: I was.
NOORY: But they were getting stronger
and stronger and stronger.
RICE: They were.
They were.
And then, in 2016, they really started coming back strongly.
That's when the dream started kicking in.
And it turns out that that was the 20-year anniversary.
or just before the 20-year anniversary, of my getting out
2016 was 20 years from when my in-processing actually started.
NOORY: And you were in and out a couple times, weren't you?
RICE: That's correct.
That's correct.
NOORY: Wei, the story that we're
going to unfold today here with Jason is absolutely remarkable.
You started this and the recruitment
started at what age?
RICE: I was around age two
NOORY: Two years old?
Are your parents still alive?
RICE: They are.
NOORY: Do they recollect any of this?
RICE: No.
They recollect my going to a special behavioral program.
But to them, it was because I was an escape artist
and kept getting out of the house.
NOORY: At what point would they
have gotten to you at two years old
and your parents not know about it?
RICE: While I was at these classes
at this behavioral modification
NOORY: All right.
As a two-year-old.
RICE: As a 2 and 1/2, three-year-old, yes.
NOORY: So you're in these classes and somebody
from the Secret Space Program, some government agency,
they get to you?
RICE: The MILAB program was heavily
involved in recruiting and finding new recruits.
And one of the ways that I'm convinced they
did this was through setting up agreements
with these behavioral modification programs.
Because most of the kids that are intuitive empaths
are highly energetic, don't listen, won't obey,
have their own mind about things.
And so they will clandestinely make arrangements
with these groups and these organizations that are
doing psychological research.
And I'm sure some of it was.
Of course, they would never be allowed to get away
with what they did then.
I mean, they put us in a box.
Now, you're two years old at the time.
RICE: Yes.
NOORY: What are you doing with a little two-year-old kid
for some agency?
What are they training you for?
RICE: They're getting to know who you are,
getting to know what you can and can't do.
NOORY: So they’re watching you.
RICE: They're watching.
And it wasn't until years later, at the age of six or seven,
that they actually started getting me involved,
taking me on field trips while I was at school.
NOORY: A-ha.
So along the way, they are watching you.
They're training you.
They're mind washing you, basically.
And then, once you get to that certain age,
it's time to start...
RICE: Training.
NOORY: ...using and training you.
RICE: That's correct.
NOORY: You talked about MILAB.
What is that?
RICE: Military Abduction Program.
Training of the kids in combat tactics, the ability
to use their intuitive empath abilities,
how to manipulate people, how to use their intuitive empath
skills to read situations or to figure things out
that they've never seen or done before.
NOORY: How many students do you
think were involved or are involved
in that kind of program?
RICE: There's no telling.
know that they have...
NOORY: Countless numbers?
RICE: Countless thousand.
NOORY: Thousands.
RICE: Globally.
NOORY: Did they ever pay you for this?
RICE: No.
NOORY: Did you ever recollect an individual you were assigned
to or anything like that?
RICE: No.
NOORY: And this is all starting
to come back to you now.
RICE: Yes
NOORY: This is an amazing program.
There's a fellow by the name of Randy Cramer, a whistleblower.
I don't know if you know him.
He claims that he went through a secret space program,
as a number of people have.
Corey Goode is another one who has
mentioned that he's gone through a secret space program.
Your situation could be different from Corey's.
But let's look in on Randy.
RICE: Sure.
RANDY CRAMER: Project Moon Shadow
was the project which genetically engineered
and trained me and 299 other young boys
and girls, for a total of 300 of us, in the project.
We were all genetically engineered from the ground up,
Petri dish level, and then trained from pretty much...
I mean the programming, the sort
of teaching training programming starts at a infantile toddler
And then you start physical, like showing up
to physical locations for training, probably by 4...
4 and 1/2 years old.
So very, very, very young starting.
But none of those early stage training programs and so forth
are like really shocking or violent or scary or anything.
They're all just programs and training systems
designed to teach you hand-eye coordination, group
dynamic functions how to work as a team.
NOORY: Jason, does that sound familiar?
RICE: It does.
It does, with group dynamics, working as a team,
learning to work together, learning
to identify and recognize other people's strengths
and weaknesses.
NOORY: Might you have been in that program,
or do you think there are a number of others?
RICE: I have a strong feeling that there
are a number of protocol programs that they utilize.
And depending on your strengths and your individual weaknesses,
you will go to a specific program.
NOORY: How did they get to the point
where you don't have memory of this?
What do they do to you?
RICE: Throughout the program, because
of the technology and the medication
and pharmaceuticals that they have,
they are able to memory wipe you from the experience.
And then, when you're brought back
to go through additional training,
they're able to selectively turn on and off those memories
as needed to suit their needs.
NOORY: Which I think may be what happened to Sirhan Sirhan,
the assassin of Robert Kennedy...
RICE: Yes.
NOORY: ...who continues to this day
to claim that he has blanked out,
that he has no recollection of what he did even though he
was clearly there.
They grabbed a gun from him.
But he has no idea that he was there.
RICE: You look throughout history at the number of people
that have had that exact kind of thing happen, and it's...
to me, you can't have that kind of smoke without a fire.
NOORY: Case in point, Jason, while we're
talking about Sirhan Sirhan, of course
is his attorney, whom I know well,
William Pepper talking about the fact
that Sirhan Sirhan has no recollect on of what happened.
ADRIAN FINIGHAN: You touched upon it there,
events in that kitchen.
You can see then that your client was there
and that he fired his gun.
Take us through the scenario that you
believe developed there.
Why was he there, your client, with a gun.
And why did he fire it?
Sirhan was hypno-programmed in months
prior to the assassination.
He does not remember at all why he was there and what he did
and what happened there.
There s an indication of that, of course,
and it's been commented on by a number of people
who have seen photographs of him after the arrest.
I've spent nearly three hours with him not so long ago.
And it's quite clear that he still does not recall.
Now, he was told that he did this.
He was told that he was guilty.
And so he said, they told me this.
I don't remember it.
I was there.
I had a gun.
I actually discharged the weapon.,
He fired eight shots of that weapon,
a though six were fired when h s hand was
pinned to the steam table.,
So he said at the time, I guess I just assumed that did it.
And everyone told me that.
And his own lawyer at the time, of course his trial counsel,
was a fellow called Grant Cooper.
Now, Cooper was subject to an indictment during the time when
he was Sirhan's...
a federal indictment when he was Sirhan's counsel.
So they didn't even put up a defense.
NOORY: Jason, do you feel violated because of this?
RICE: Absolutely.
When first started really waking up in 2016, I was angry.
You know you go through the multiple steps of grieving?
NOORY: Yeah.
RICE: Anger is one of them.
NOORY: Was this done to hurt you'?
I mean, what was their intent?
Why take you?
Why not just take some volunteer who wants to do this?
And then we're going to get into the Secret Space Program
and what you think it is.
But why grab somebody and change his life
like they did to you instead of getting somebody to volunteer?
I mean, you've been in the military.
I've been in the military.
We probably would have volunteered for a program
like this.
RICE: Sure.
With full disclosure, you' have
a much fewer number of people actually volunteering.
But you'll still have volunteers.
They did it because they believed they were
doing the right thing for...
NOORY: They must have done things
to you that were very dangerous and serious that they
didn't want you to know about.
RICE: Yes, they did.
And they didn't want to have that type of tool
at free will use running amongst the population.
NOORY: Let's talk about the Secret Space Program per se.
What is it, in your opinion?
RICE: The Secret Space Program is
a number of different programs.
There isn't one.
There's a bunch of them.
The Air Force has their own.
The Navy has their own.
There's a breakaway civilization,
the Antarctic German breakaway civilization.
They have their own.
There's a number of different governments
on this planet that has their own secret space programs.
It's the use of advanced technology
for whatever their agendas may be.
It may be for dominance over their particular air space.
It may be for science.
It may be for control of their individual populations,
in that they are able to develop additional technologies to do
that.
NOORY: Do you think you have been an astronaut?
RICE: Not in any conventional sense, but yes.
NOORY: Have you traveled to the moon?
Have you traveled to the Mars?
Where have they taken you?
RICE: I've trained on Earth.
I've trained on the lunar operations command on the moon
I've been on Mars.
I've been on multiple other planets.
NOORY: How did you get to Mars, for example?
RICE: By shuttle.
NOORY: OK.
RICE: By shuttle.
NOORY: How many years ago?
RICE: This was originally in 1997.
NOORY: And how long were you there?
Do you have recollection of that?
RICE: The recollections I have...
the first training base that was at, George...
and giving this more thought as the memories come back,
we progressed to the base.
We progressed to the base by the tunnel system underground.
And we ended up in a large cavern.
And the cavern could have been anywhere.
They told us it was...
NOORY: But you believe it's Mars.
RICE: They told us it was Georgia.
NOORY: Georgia?
RICE: They told us it was Georgia.
And I'm very convinced that was disinformation on purpose.
NOORY: But you were on Mars?
RICE: I had a feeling...
NOORY: They're telling you it's Georgia
but you're on another planet?
RICE: I have a feeling it was off planet.
They told us in the \ briefings that we
would spend eight months in our first training in that cave,
and then the next six months would be spent on the moon.
And then the last four months would be spent on Mars.
NOORY: When you were around the age of 10 to 13,
what's going on in your life?
RICE: 10 to 13 in my life, I was
going through a lot of issues at home.
They look for families that have hard times because it's
much easier to manipulate what's going on, where the kids are
and what's going on as far as how
they can keep things hidden.
NOORY: What are they doing to you at this age training wise?
RICE: Training wise?
They're taking me out during school hours,
taking me to bases or to a local facility in which they're
doing additional training.
It could be anything from team building
to small individual combat tactics.
NOORY: Did your friends at the time...
do you remember your friends saying. Jason, where are you
all the time?
Why are you leaving us?
Anything like that?
RICE: No.
NOORY: At what times would they take you?
RICE: They would take during the school day,
but they would a so take me during the night.
Because I do remember occasions in which
I was at an abandoned mall.
NOORY: Did your parents know who they were at any point?
RICE: If they did, they were wiped of that information.
NOORY: The program was called First 20.
RICE: 20 and back.
NOORY: Tell me about that.
RICE: The 20 and Back program is
essentially, let's give you the opportunity
to serve your country.
Let's give you a chance to go out in space
and do some incredible things.
At the end of that 20-year period,
because you've been away from Earth,
we're going to give you a chance to go back right to the time
and point in which you left.
And you'll be able to continue on with your life.
That's the 20 and Back program.
NOORY: It's kind of intriguing.
RICE: It's very intriguing.
And the dangling of that particular fruit
in front of you, especially during an era
when Star Wars has just come out...
all the science fiction has been maturing
for the last 30 or 40 years.
There's lots of information out there
about what the potential is.
And so being able to participate in something like that
is an incredible motivator.
NOORY: So these recollections are
starting to come back to you.
Do you think at that time you were fully
aware of what was going on?
RICE: I was absolutely not fully aware
NOORY: Not fully aware.
RICE: No, I was not.
Absolutely not.
They don't give you full disclosure.
They don't tell you that they're going
to mind wipe you and erase the 20 years that you were gone.
On certain levels, you still retain that information,
in the higher levels of yourself.
That information s still there, even
though the chemistry of the physical body, it's gone
But the memories are still there.
And what they don't count on is they
don't count on that after the 20 years, memories are returning.
If they had told me everything, if they hadn't lied,
I probably would have made a different decision.
NOORY: Do you fee at this point
that they cheated with you?
RICE: Oh, they messed with me big time, George.
Part of the process that you go through
is they learn everything about you, all your buttons,
all your motivators, everything and anything physically,
emotionally, mentally, that works and doesn't work for you.
So as part of the out-processing,
they make sure...
another level of their diabolical planning
and controlling this information is if you start getting close
to the truth and asking these questions,
protocols kick in within yourself for self-destructive
behavior for self-destructive things that...
you think, why am I doing this?
But you end up getting so distracted
that you're too busy to even think
about some crazy government conspiracy.
NOORY: And I've got tote you, Jason, I've
interviewed thousands and thousands of people.
And I am not picking up from you any kind of deception.
It's a bizarre story, to be sure.
RICE: To be sure.
NOORY: And I'm looking forward to when
they hypnotize you and try to see f they can get some more
information out of you.
But I'm not picking up anything of deceit or anything
like that.
And I've got to commend you for that
RICE: Well, thank you.
NOORY: The late whistleblower William Tompkins, of course,
said on Gaia's ' Cosmic Disclosure" a little bit
about this.
WILLIAM TOMPKINS: They finished their Navy
20-year tour, and they make the selection to go back
to United States.
Now remember, during that 20 years.
they had no contact with their family or with anybody
back on Earth.
That's a prerequisite.
But they remember the family.
They remember their friends and the people
they used to go to and some of the girlfriends
they used to have.
And so they come back.
But they were 20 years older when they left the planet.
So the girlfriends are going to be a whole lot older.
And so the Navy has allowed them, n the Solar Warden
System Program, to go back to the age
that they were when they signed up.
Well, you said they were 20 years o d when they signed up.
And they went a 20-year Navy tour.
They came back, and now they're 20 years old.
And they are n a situation where
life is this 20-year-old life that they
had going when they left.
And now, during that several weeks returning,
their minds, not painfully, but their minds
are played with to where 90.99 of their memory for the last 20
years out in space is removed.
So they're sitting there now.
The girlfriend is the same age as she was.
Wait a minute.
She wasn't 20 years older like we said.
She's still the same age.
If he was married, his wife, the kids, were the same age.
They didn't spend 20 years more life.
So he comes... that's kind of a cool system.
Yes, that system is operation and has
been operating since 1980.
NOORY: Now that's bizarre, Jason.
Is that what happened to you?
RICE: That's very well spoken.
NOORY: Same kind of thing.
RICE: Same concept.
Except he said that it wasn't painful , and my memories
of the process...
NOORY: It was.
RICE: ...are actually very painful.
NOORY: So I was going to ask you
if you think something was so horrendous that
may have occurred that that's the reason why
they have to brainwash you.
Because it was maybe you saw some kind
of extraterrestrials that were evil or something
horrible happened and that the only way you could cope with it
to forget about it.
Possible?
RICE: That's a very interesting point.
Yes, there were some very horrible things
that we had to go through, that we
had to see, that we had to endure,
that we had to live through.
And no, that's not the reason why they wiped it.
The reason they wiped it was for operational securities.
NOORY: And they do that with drugs?
How do you think they do that?
RICE: They do that through a combination of pharmaceuticals
and technology.
The process that I went through involved what very similarly
looks to like a dentist's chair.
But you're plugged into all kinds of pharmaceuticals.
And they use scalar waves and a number
of other types of radiation or other medical processes
to for me, clean my system of the nanite and enhancements
that they gave us, but also to age
regress us back to the point from which we
left our original timeline.
NOORY: Jason, what are screen memories?
RICE: Screen memories are implanted memories
that they give you to replace the blank that they take away.
For instance, my training during childhood.
They didn't want me remembering and going
home and talking about it around the dinner table.
NOORY: Didn't want to tell mom and dad, did they?
RICE: Right.
Hey, guess what?
I was at an Air Force or Navy base today.
And they had me working with other kids,
and I was talking to them through these special devices.
NOORY: And I'm going to Mars.
RICE: Right, yeah.
So they will come in and mind wipe that portion...
NOORY: Screen you out, basically.
RICE: Yeah, erase it.
And then they'll come back in with that blank slate
that they've just created and say, you were at the aquarium.
You saw this shark.
NOORY: And that's what you remember.
RICE: And that's what you remember.
NOORY: Do you really want to remember what happened to you?
RICE: You know, that's a really good question, George.
And when first started waking up, I was so angry.
I said, gosh, I want to remember everything.
Darn it, they took all this from me and did all this to me.
Part of the personal growth that you
have to do, the personal work that I'm
convinced that you have to do...
I've learned that I don't really want to know all
until it's the right time.
Because some of the things I'm not ready for.
NOORY: You might not be able to handle the truth,
RICE: I might not.
And so some of the things that have come back to me
have been very painful.
And some of these things, originally, I
had to take a step back for six weeks
because t was so painful.
It was so emotionally disturbing to me.
NOORY: Do you tell friends about this?
RICE: I've told some close friends about this.
NOORY: What did they think?
RICE: The close friends that I've told,
I have been very selective about it.
And so they've been supportive.
They've been interested.
They've been open to it.
NOORY: Are they concerned about you?
RICE:They have been concerned about me.
They've been concerned about my safety
and, hey, what's going to happen to you if you come out
and talk about this?
NOORY: Have you weighed that?
RICE: have.
I've weighed that.
And part of this growth process has
been re-evaluating my definition,
my own personal definition, of life and death
and what the value of that is.
NOORY: You need to be careful Jason.
Because if they have taken the extremes to play with
your mind, erase as much as they think they can,
if you're going to go public with this...
and you're starting to, obviously,
on programs like this and everything else...
they could shut you up...
RICE: Sure they could.
NOORY: ...in their own little way.
Aren't you concerned about that?
NOORY: Of course.
Of course I'm concerned about it.
NOORY: Are you always looking over your shoulder?
RICE: It's funny.
Hearing Corey talk about having firearms
placed at different; places around the house,
I had to laugh when I heard that episode.
Because that was during my awakening
process, and I hadn't really put pieces together.
But I had already been doing that.
I was  no more than an arm's reach away from a firearm.
NOORY: Just in case.
RICE: Just in case.
And so it gets back to the same concept of terrorism.
Do you not go outside because you're so afraid?
And I'm convinced that we still have to carry on
and try and spread as much love in just anything
that we're doing, take care of ourselves.
NOORY: How do you know you're out of the Secret Space Program
and that you're not still in it?
RICE: And that I'm not still in it?
I'd say that the way that I know I'm out
is that if I was still in, I wouldn't have the health
issues that I've got, is that they would take care of that.
NOORY: What's wrong with you?
RICE: I've got neck and back problems.
NOORY: Caused by?
RICE: I think that there is definitely
some origin in the Secret Space Program.
The technology that they used for healing,
while it is far beyond anything that we could ever
see in any hospital on Earth, it still has its limitations.
So I believe that they were able to fix me up a most as good
as new, but there were still some defects.
And so some of the problems that I've had
have been exacerbated because of the original injuries
NOORY: Why can't they heal you?
Why can't they use Star Trekkian medicine- right?
RICE: That's right.
NOORY: And wave a wand right over your back.
RICE: Well, in some ways, that's close to what they do.
But they're not gods.
They're still humans with very advanced technology.
And humans by definition are not perfect.
And so any technology that they've acquired or made
is still not perfect.
NOORY: They're not there quite yet.
RICE: Not there yet.
NOORY: Might you have been involved
in some kind of spacecraft crash or something like that?
RICE: Pretty sure that that was the origin of it.
But the information is sketchy.
I'd like to learn more.
That's one of the things I want to learn more about,
is the origins of that, as well as the shrapnel
that I've got n my body.
NOORY: So you were in for 20.
And then did you go back for a little bit?
RICE: I was in for my first 20 and Back.
That started when I was at 13.
And the reason I know that t was that year
was because that was the final year of my training.
And it was at that point that my maturity level
changed drastically, overnight.
NOORY: You went from a kid to an adult.
RICE: I went from a kid to an adult., yup.
missed 186 out of 250 something days of school
that year.
NOORY: When you're regressed back age wise,
do you go back into time 20 years ago?
RICE: Yes.
Part of out-processing from the 20 and Back program
is that the timeline that they originally picked you from,
separated you from, you're taken back to that.
And so when they return you to your original timeline,
they age regress you.
And as I mentioned, for me it was a painful experience.
t was about 10 days worth of hell.
NOORY: Would you go through t again?
RICE: If I absolutely had to, yes
NOORY: But do you actually feel that age when
they take you back 20 years?
RICE: You don't remember it.
But there are parts of your higher
self, parts of the self that do recall that.
It changes you, absolutely changes you.
NOORY: And then they bring you back to the reality of time?
RICE: They bring you back to the original timeline
where you departed from, drop you off.
Here you go.
Go back living your life.
We're going to watch you for a while.
NOORY: Well, how do you know you're out of it?
RICE: How do I know that I'm...
NOORY: That you're n in the program anymore.
RICE: Well, aside from being fed...
well, if I was still in, the memories
that I've got of my daily activities, they would.
not be as complete as they are.
And what that means is, since my awakening,
doing the person work, remembering more, and paying
attention to the here and now allows
me to remember more of what's going on.
NOORY: Sure.
RICE: The screen memories that they use, there's gaps.
There's lots of gaps.
And so when you have gaps in your daily activity
sometimes you space out.
And you're driving to work, and you
don't remember a particular field
that you've driven by every single day
work for the last two years.
And you go, wow, how long has that been there?
And the person next to you says, man,
that's been there for 10 years.
NOORY: And it's right under your nose
RICE: And it's right under your nose
It's those kind of gaps that you can
look at from your daily activities and say, OK,
do I remember picking up my toothbrush?
Yes, do.
Do I remember putting toothpaste on it?
Yes, I do.
Do remember buckling my belt?
Yes, do.
Those little things that they don't put generally
in screen memories is how I know that I'm not still in it.
NOORY: You were a second lieutenant in the United States
Army for how long?
RICE: I was a second lieutenant
for all of about eight months.
And that was my whole goal through college
was to make a career out of the US Army.
NOORY: And how did you get out of the Army?
RICE: I had medical issues that was honorably discharged
from the service for.
NOORY: So you're done with the military now.
RICE: Well, yes, I am finished with the military.
However, there is a particular document
that I have that has an indefinite expiration date.
It's my ID card that was originally issued.
Almost all ID cards that I've ever seen...
NOORY: So technically, you're still in.
RICE: Well, it could be said that I am.
I think that that was one of the mistakes that was made,
one of the human errors, was that they forgot to get that
or forgot to get that changed.
NOORY: Get your 20 in and get your retirement out
of it, Jason.
RICE: That's what I said.
But nope.
No, that wasn't part of the deal.
NOORY: That's not going to happen?
RICE: No.
During the original in-processing at the Fort
Indiantown Gap facility that I Was at, the original briefing
included a large section on your pay,
how much you would be banking
because you obviously can't spend it
when you're off planet somewhere... and the tens
of hundreds of thousands of dollars
that you would acquire after 20 years
that would be available to you when you return.
NOORY: And of course, you've gotten all of it.
RICE: Not a dime.
NOORY: Not a dime.
RICE: Not a dime.
NOORY: Will you ever collect?
RICE: No.
m not counting on that.
And you know what?
That's OK.
I said earlier, I wouldn't be the person I am today
if I hadn't gone through the experiences
that I've gone through.
And I value that much more than any money.
NOORY: What would you say to someone
who has been put through a program like this, who
is at a point where they are just beginning to understand what
happened to them?
How would you help them?
RICE: That's a very good question.
And I in many ways wish that I'd had somebody that
could have done that for me.
And the response that I would give is...
do the persona work.
That's more important than anything else,
than any memories, than any "what happened to me" question.
Do the personal work.
Work on yourself.
Find out the whys.
Why are you angry about it?
Why are you angry that they lied to you?
NOORY: Because they will get angry, won't they?
RICE: Of course, on one of those seven or nine
stages that you go through.
NOORY: Is it fixable for them?
RICE: Absolutely it's.
You're not broken beyond repair.
NOORY: Or alone.
RICE: Or alone.
And you're not going crazy.
And the best thing to do is do the personal work.
Find a counselor if you need help
to talk to that's not going to want to institutionalize you.
And you can be selective about the counselor
that you go find, or a good friend or somebody
that you can discuss with in an impartial manner.
Do the personal work.
Meditation.
Look at what you're doing every day.
Look at the self-destructive behaviors
that you're either avoiding or putting off.
And find a balance for them.
NOORY: Are you dealing with a counselor who just gets you?
RICE: I have in the past, but not currently.
Not currently.
The persona work that I've been able to do
I'd say over the last year has been heavily self guided.
And it requires a tremendous amount of discipline
and doing your own work, your own homework,
your own discernment
There's a lot of information out there,
and you have to be discerning on what you take in
and what you reject.
Parts here, parts there.
And when you get better at listening to your higher self,
or when you get better at listening
to what your heart's telling you, you get better.
And I'm in no way perfect at it.
I'm still learning, as I think the human journey is part
of that, is that you're learning the whole time if you are
open to it.
NOORY: You feel violated.
RICE: Yes.
NOORY: It's going on with a number of other people.
How do you feel about the fact that they
may be doing this with other little youngsters?
RICE: Oh. it's terrible.
NOORY: Training them along.
RICE: I have worried about that very thing
with my own children.
Was it done to them?
Are my children going through any of this?
Because how many other kids have to go through the mind
wipes and the violations and seeing the things
that they put them through?
Because one of the training procedures that they do,
George, is they expose you.
Because they've explored your entire psyche,
they know everything you're afraid of.
So if you're afraid of being burned alive,
through extensive virtual reality, you get burned alive
If you're afraid of drowning, guess what?
You get to drown.
NOORY: They mind play with you.
RICE: They mind play with you through every single one
of your fears.
All of them... falling, drowning.
NOORY: If you're afraid of demons,
they'll put them n your brain and stuff like that.
RICE: Bugs, snakes.
You name it.
They put you through every one of them.
NOORY: I don't like snakes or spiders.
So they'd be all over me, wouldn't they?
RICE: I still don't like spiders.
NOORY: What, they try to break you?
Is that what they do?
RICE: They're trying to desensitize you so that, if you
are in a situation where you have physical issues
or you have challenges, that you can call on that
and say, OK, that was my fear.
I overcame it.
I can overcome this.
NOORY: Let's assume for a moment, Jason,
that there was one person responsible for watching you,
for training you.
Maybe they were in their 30s when you were 2
They're probably dead now and they've been replaced.
But if you had that opportunity to confront
that person, that person who was responsible for dong
all this to you in the program, what would you say to them?
RICE: I'd tell them it was wrong.
Absolutely.
I forgive them.
NOORY: You do forgive them?
RICE: Yes.
And that was a really hard thing to come to.
Because I wouldn't be the person am today
if hadn't gone through everything I had to go through.
NOORY: Have you had crying nights?
RICE: Of course.
Waking up in tears, or days that you just
want to ball up in a corner.
Yes, absolutely.
NOORY: The recollection that is starting to come back to you
now, what is probably one of the most dramatic things you
can tell us today that you can recall?
RICE: Seeing a planetary bombardment by a kinetic energy
weapon and seeing
NOORY: Explain that.
RICE: ...thousands of people killed.
NOORY: Where?
RICE: This was during deployment on another planet.
Part of our mission was to help
because the program that I was involved with
was a false flag operation from the top down.
The alien entities that were in charge
of wanting to gain control over other planets,
they're not very attractive to most beings.
NOORY: In terms of appearance?
RICE: They're scarier than hell.
They look like demons.
NOORY: Kind of describe what they look like.
RICE: If you 'e seen any devil or demon in a Western
Christian
NOORY: With horns and...
RICE: Horns and tails.
NOORY: ...those funny tails and stuff.
That's what they look like?
RICE: Very close.
NOORY: Then maybe the description biblically
may have been them.
RICE: It probably was.
I'm convinced it was.
NOORY: All right.
RICE: They are the ones that are interacting with the humans
calling the shots.
And what they were doing is they were using humanoids
under the false threat of an alien invasion
on other planets.
Because the other planets thought
that they were going to get invaded
by some mean evil aliens.
And we show up.
We're here to help
Well, absolutely.
They have far beyond our technology.
There's no way we could stand up to them.
What can you do for us?
There's the foot in the door.
We're invited in.
NOORY: Help us.
RICE: Help us.
Well, the cost of being invited in
is you've got to turn over your planetary control to whoever
turns out.
NOORY: Have we done that?
RICE: We've done that on countless occasions.
Humans have helped enslave a number of other planets
through that process.
NOORY: In our solar system or outside of it?
RICE: Outside of our solar system, in our galaxy.
NOORY: The propulsion systems used to get you to these places
must be way beyond what we're using today.
RICE: Oh. they are.
NOORY: Is it ET propulsion?
What is it?
What kind of technology is it?
RICE: It was originally reverse engineered.
I believe some of it was channeled as far
as the information that was originally
obtained in the '30s for the first human devices
that were created for anti-gravity or temporal
travel.
The Germans were doing it in the '30s.
And so from there, that's where the breakaway civilization
went.
They took their toys and went down to Antarctica first.
NOORY: What an amazing story.
RICE: And the rest of the planet,
the rest of the cabal planet, it was either seeded by other
aliens...
hey, here's some technology for you.
It's crashed and mostly banged up,
but think you can do some amazing things,
like seeing in the dark or like fiber optics.
NOORY: And they've learned how to bend space and time,
I think.
RICE: Yes.
NOORY: That's how they travel, basically
through wormholes or something like that, instantly.
RICE: One instant you're in one place.
In the next instant you're in another.
NOORY: There you are.
Back to Randy Cramer again, talking about his involvement
on other planets.
CRAMER: I have said this...
20-year tour.
20-year healing process.
Just straight up.
There's no other way to look at it.
It was a 20-year tour and a 20-year healing process
before had a solid grip on what the heck was going on.
NOORY: So the Randy Cramer clip
that we just saw is much like what has happened to you.
This must be a real story.
RICE: Well, as I mentioned earlier,
George, where there's enough smoke,
there's going to be a fire.
And I think that the awakening process
that many are going through now and realizing
there is a shadow government...
they are doing things that are unethical, illegal,
and way beyond anything that's ever even come out so far.
NOORY: What do you think, Jason, the purpose
is of doing this?
Why are they doing this...
grabbing kids training kids, doing it?
Why is t so secret?
RICE: If they let us all know about the technologies
that they have, the people would be clamoring
for use of that technology.
NOORY: Of course.
I want free energy.
RICE: Who doesn't want an electric bill?
We wouldn't have to have one.
We could have a small device about the size of a shoebox
for all our power needs.
Never an electric bill ever again.
NOORY: Or a power outage.
RICE: Or a power outage
NOORY: You know. we're concerned
about the power grid going down from an EMP attack
or an X-flare from the sun.
This would help avoid that.
RICE: Yes.
You wouldn't have that.
Or another issue is, well, what about travel?
Well, shoot, you could get on a shuttle
and go anywhere you wanted to in a matter of seconds,
or minutes at the longest.
You want to go to London for lunch?
OK, let's go.
NOORY: Let's go.
Let's go from LA to New York in a half hour.
RICE: Or Jupiter or Saturn, anywhere you wanted to go.
NOORY: But that sounds positive.
That sounds great.
Why not do that?
Give it to us.
RICE: That's what I say.
The issue is that the mindset of these people
is that their self-worth is so tied up in control, feeling
like they've got this divine right of kings, which we all
know is the hogwash that it is, and that they
want to be separate.
And that's how they feel special.
That s how they feel like they have something
that other people don't, is they're
able to have this control over others
because they have technology, that they're
able to use technology and medical procedures that
are way beyond anything that's available now.
I had skin patches that healed wounds and melted
into the skin.
I had imp ants that fought radiation or enhanced
my vision and my hearing.
Any of the five senses were enhanced, as we I as
self healing abilities.
That's out there.
It's out there today.
NOORY: Jason, you are going to go through hypnosis.
You're going to take a lie detector
test to prove what you re saying is authentic.
You're still going to get people that say, you're nuts.
RICE: Sure.
NOORY: You're lying.
You're not telling us the truth.
What do you say to them right now,
those people who may be watching the program today?
What do you say to them?
RICE: I would say to them, do your homework.
Do your own research.
The information, the crumbs, are out there.
They're out there right now.
And connect enough of the dots.
And when the time is right, you' I be able to see it too.
NOORY: Can you understand how they feel?
RICE: Of course I can.
I absolutely can understand.
NOORY: You felt that way once yourself.
RICE: I felt that way once myself.
Oh, that's just a bunch of tinfoil hat talk.
I've got bigger things to worry about.
I've got to pay my bills.
I've got to go take care of my health.
I've got to look out for the security of my family.
That's part of the control program.
If you're so worried about your safety and security
and your well-being of your family
you're not going to be worried about little things
like extra technology or conspiracy theories.
NOORY: Outside of being a whistlebllower now,
have you contemplated hiring a lawyer
to maybe go after the government,
maybe sue them for what they've done?
They've taken most of your life.
And they've taken it away from you.
That's got to be worth something.
RICE: It is.
There is value to that.
And I think the value is going to be in exposing the lies.
I don't feel that going after them in a court of law
is going to be beneficial to the awakening that needs to happen.
Because what happens is that, in order to sue the government,
you've got to get permission from them first.
NOORY: And you've got to get an attorney...
RICE: That's willing to do it.
NOORY: ...who's going to be willing to take this on.
RICE: And everybody has to stay alive for t to happen,
which doesn't always happen.
NOORY: How's your life now?
RICE: It's amazing.
NOORY: You're happy?
RICE: I am.
I am.
NOORY: Could you always have said that?
RICE: No, absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
I have health issues, just like so many millions of others.
I have struggles every single day.
NOORY: How old are you?
RICE: 46.
NOORY: You're still a puppy.
RICE: And I have struggles just like everybody else.
I am no different than anybody else in that respect.
And it's all about how you center yourself every day,
and enjoying that moment and looking for the positive,
looking for the love of the day.
And there's so many different signs and signals for that.
NOORY: Are you able to sleep at right?
RICE: Yes, when health issues don't keep me from sleep.
But yeah.
NOORY: But I mean your mind is calm?
RICE:Yes
Yes it is.
NOORY: Are you concerned that under hypnosis you're
going to get more information that you really shouldn't get?
RICE: No, and here's why.
I mentioned a few minutes ago that at first
wanted to know everything, start to finish.
Give it to me.
NOORY: I don't blame you.
That was my first reaction.
It was, hey, I've been hidden from all this
for all these years.
There have been a number of instances and messages
that I've gotten from I ca I my higher self, in that, OK,
I'm not ready for it, all of it.
The parts that I'm ready for, they come to me.
They come to me through waking messages,
through flashes of memory, through dreams,
through any number of venues.
And so it's been a healing and a self process
in itself learning that, that hey, OK
So getting back to your question,
worrying about whether or not some
of the things that come out during hypnosis, if it's
going to be too much... no, because I know my higher self
won't allow that to happen.
Having relived some of the memories from the experiences
you asked a few minutes ago the most painful memory.
And having lived through seeing and being
able to zoom in on a kinetic energy
weapon, which is basically a meteor of a certain size
You get too b g and you're going to destroy a hemisphere.
And that's not what they wanted to do.
They just wanted to take out cities around
basically, dropping it in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico
would take out all the cities around the Gulf of Mexico.
NOORY: Did they take out Atlantis?
Something happened.
RICE: Something happened in Atlantis.
And until we get full disclosure,
my belief is that At an is happened
to be put under ice because of the tampering
that alien races were doing on this planet
to the indigenous population.
NOORY: Interesting.
Are you still in touch with anybody?
RICE: No.
NOORY: Done.
RICE: Done.
NOORY: Were you in touch with ETs at one point?
RICE: Yes, I was.
Very early in my childhood.
I had contact.
NOORY: For those that you remember
not the demonic ones, not the ones that looked like
the devil...
but were there good ones?
RICE: Yes.
There are many good ones.
On deployment, the indigenous races that we dealt with, there
were some insectoids that were...
just like here, you have good ones, you have bad ones.
You have bad apples just like you have the good ones.
That seems to be a pattern that's repeated
throughout the universe.
NOORY: Jason, what are you trying
to accomplish by conning public, by going forward with this?
What do you want?
RICE: That's a really good question.
And there are three things that I want
and the reason why I'm doing this.
The first has to do with getting the information out
about the Secret Space Program.
NOORY: And you're doing that now.
RICE: Yes, by doing that.
Because humanity has been involved in the enslavement
that aware of...
I know I was involved in at [east two other planets.
We've helped enslave at least two.
And that was just my unit.
And there were two divisions that were doing this.
So there are countless other planets out
there that humanity has helped to enslave.
Whether we take care of that, making
it right, tomorrow or next year or in 1,000 years,
is something that we're going to have to address
as a human race at some point.
NOORY: How did we at Gaia find you?
Or did you find us?
RICE: I found Gaia through the "Cosmic Disclosure"
NOORY: Program.
RICE: ...call for the whistleblowers.
It was an act of synchronicity I couldn't ignore.
It was the very next day after a "mallet over the head",
a-ha memory return.
Very next day
Within 12 hours.
NOORY: Did you hold back at all before you
decided to contact us?
RICE: I had been before that, because I was still
putting memory pieces together.
And then, as I said, at that one memory recollection
that came during a dream.
NOORY: If you pass the lie detector
test, and if under hypnosis more information comes out
about this, how will you personally feel ?
Travis Walton, for example, whom I know
"Fire in the Sky", claims he was abducted...
passed lie detector tests.
His friends who were with him at that time...
RICE: Also passed.
NOORY: ...passed lie detector tests.
If you pass this test, what does that tell you?
RICE: Well, it tells me what I already knew.
NOORY: Does help you personally?
Does it reinforce to you that what happened happened?
Because I still think there's a little part of you,
a really small part of you, that thinks,
did this really happen to me?
Or is my mind playing games with me?
RICE: I think having those test results will help me.
But I think more importantly, it'll
help some of the other people out there
that say. OK, this guy's just talking nonsense.
Because I know what I've experienced.
NOORY: And you're convinced it happened to you.
RICE: I am absolutely convinced.
NOORY: This is not a figment of your vivid imagination.
RICE: No.
Having gone through the memory recalls that have...
and again, over a 20-year period...
the different dots that occurred and making the connections
with those, even going back to my childhood, to me
is enough information for me to reach that kind of conclusion.
NOORY: Why didn't you come forward 10 years ago?
RICE: I wasn't convinced.
I wasn't ready.
NOORY: You're ready now?
RICE: I am.
NOORY: Full speed ahead?
RICE: Full speed ahead.
NOORY: Ramifications?
You don't care?
RICE: I do care, because I have family
and because I care about them.
As far as me personally, having gone about as low as one
I believe can be in my life and having
been at the very bottom...
And there are always possibilities of ramifications.
There are people all throughout history
that have, for instance, brought out new technologies.
And they get mired in false civil charges
and locked up on false charges for this or that.
And you never hear from them again.
Are there ways that they could shut things down?
Of course.
Of course there are.
But the information's important enough
and I feel strongly enough about it
that I'm willing to take that risk.
NOORY: What does your family say about this?
RICE: They're supportive.
They're supportive of me.
NOORY: Are they convinced that it happened?
RICE: They are convinced that I m convinced.
NOORY: I don't know what happened to you.
don't know what happened to you.
But I actually believe you believe what happened to you.
And that tells me everything I need to know.
RICE: Sure.
Sure.
And being able to, if nothing else,
open people's minds to the possibilities...
and think a lot of the changes that we're seeing here
in the US with people awakening to what's
going on behind the scenes with our own government
and the shadow government, that's
just the tip of the iceberg.
And being able to open people's eyes to that...
if we can reach one person and help them put context
to some of these strange memories
that they're having, to show them, hey, you're not crazy
you're not just imagining these things,
that there s a possibility of some more
information out there, of more experiences
out there than you ever even considered,
then I consider it a success.
NOORY: Thanks for being on "Beyond Belief," Jason.
NOORY: And good luck to you.
RICE: Appreciate that.
NOORY: Do you believe?
Really doesn't matter, does it?
Because it's an incredible story that
has some very real possibilities.

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Спойлер:
NOORY: Welcome to another edition
of "Beyond Belief."
I'm George Noory.
And wait till you hear this incredible story
from Jason Rice.
Now Jason is an engineer, former second lieutenant
in the United States Army, a military person,
just like I was.
And he will be telling us a story about the Secret Space
Program...
not just that it exists but what his involvement in it
has been.
And it's going to knock your socks off.
Jason, welcome to Beyond Belief."
RICE: Thank you, George.
Appreciate it.
NOORY: What an amazing story.
Absolutely amazing.
Now, on the first glimpse of it, somebody
who will hear this story is going to say, oh, come on.
Secret Space Program?
This happened to him?
What do you say to somebody like that at this point?
RICE: At this point, I would say,
if I was talking to myself two years ago,
that would have had the same thoughts
NOORY: Really?
RICE: I would have.
NOORY: You would have doubted yourself?
RICE: I would have doubted it.
But having had the memories that have come back to me, the ones
that I've been able to regain and relive,
know for certain that the Secret Space Program
is for real, that there is a shadow government, that there
are things and technologies that are available that
aren't available to the rest of the population on this planet.
NOORY: Let's go back to the beginning that you can recall.
And then tell us about this recollection,
how this is coming back to you.
Because I also understand that you
have agreed to do some past life regress on and also
some other types of studies to pull this out of you.
You're not hiding anything.
But how did this first start coming?
I mean, did you have dreams, nightmares about a Secret Space
Program?
What happened?
RICE: Well, the very first indication
that something wasn't right, George,
was when I exited the US Army.
I had PTSD that I was suffering from.
And that was the first indication
that there was something wrong.
And not having a context to put it to,
it was just one of those strange things.
And so a number of years went by,
and I went in for outpatient surgery.
This was the second indication that something was off.
I was coming out of the anesthesia.
And I don't remember this, but I was told this
by the surgical staff.
And I was talking about my involvement in a space program,
being an astronaut and being out in space
and helping with the space program.
And they chalked it up to talking under the medication.
NOORY: Sure.
RICE: And I again had no context for it
And so I was like, OK, that was just one of those things.
I don't remember it anyway.
A number of years go by, and I start having things come back.
OK, think I remember doing this before,
but have no waking memory of this.
It felt lik' done it before.
An example would have been I had participated
in a hang gliding class in which you go into a Groupon
and you go with a bunch of other people.
NOORY: Sure.
RICE: So the first time I tried it,
was airborne and made it all the way down
to the end of the field, all 850 feet,
with 10 minutes of instruction.
Now, some people may chalk that up to, OK, you are
pretty good with your kinesthetics and your ability.
NOORY: Naturally.
RICE: Naturally, just jump on a hang glider.
No.
I knew as soon as got airborne,
I've done this before.
And that, again, was an out of place memory
that, OK, I don't recall ever doing this before
and have no record of it.
Years go by.
Again, I go through scuba training.
And the type of scuba mask that I bought
happened to be a full face mask.
And so I had that type of scuba mask because the work
I was doing at the time required that I needed to communicate
with the surface.
So it...
NOORY: So they're big masks.
RICE: It's a big mask.
It's a full face.
It's not a regulator in your* mouth where you can't talk.
And that was another memory flashback.
I've done this before.
But I've never had any certifications for scuba, much
less a full face mask for it.
NOORY: So you are having these deja vu experiences.
RICE: I was.
NOORY: But they were getting stronger
and stronger and stronger.
RICE: They were.
They were.
And then, in 2016, they really started coming back strongly.
That's when the dream started kicking in.
And it turns out that that was the 20-year anniversary.
or just before the 20-year anniversary, of my getting out
2016 was 20 years from when my in-processing actually started.
NOORY: And you were in and out a couple times, weren't you?
RICE: That's correct.
That's correct.
NOORY: Wei, the story that we're
going to unfold today here with Jason is absolutely remarkable.
You started this and the recruitment
started at what age?
RICE: I was around age two
NOORY: Two years old?
Are your parents still alive?
RICE: They are.
NOORY: Do they recollect any of this?
RICE: No.
They recollect my going to a special behavioral program.
But to them, it was because I was an escape artist
and kept getting out of the house.
NOORY: At what point would they
have gotten to you at two years old
and your parents not know about it?
RICE: While I was at these classes
at this behavioral modification
NOORY: All right.
As a two-year-old.
RICE: As a 2 and 1/2, three-year-old, yes.
NOORY: So you're in these classes and somebody
from the Secret Space Program, some government agency,
they get to you?
RICE: The MILAB program was heavily
involved in recruiting and finding new recruits.
And one of the ways that I'm convinced they
did this was through setting up agreements
with these behavioral modification programs.
Because most of the kids that are intuitive empaths
are highly energetic, don't listen, won't obey,
have their own mind about things.
And so they will clandestinely make arrangements
with these groups and these organizations that are
doing psychological research.
And I'm sure some of it was.
Of course, they would never be allowed to get away
with what they did then.
I mean, they put us in a box.
Now, you're two years old at the time.
RICE: Yes.
NOORY: What are you doing with a little two-year-old kid
for some agency?
What are they training you for?
RICE: They're getting to know who you are,
getting to know what you can and can't do.
NOORY: So they’re watching you.
RICE: They're watching.
And it wasn't until years later, at the age of six or seven,
that they actually started getting me involved,
taking me on field trips while I was at school.
NOORY: A-ha.
So along the way, they are watching you.
They're training you.
They're mind washing you, basically.
And then, once you get to that certain age,
it's time to start...
RICE: Training.
NOORY: ...using and training you.
RICE: That's correct.
NOORY: You talked about MILAB.
What is that?
RICE: Military Abduction Program.
Training of the kids in combat tactics, the ability
to use their intuitive empath abilities,
how to manipulate people, how to use their intuitive empath
skills to read situations or to figure things out
that they've never seen or done before.
NOORY: How many students do you
think were involved or are involved
in that kind of program?
RICE: There's no telling.
know that they have...
NOORY: Countless numbers?
RICE: Countless thousand.
NOORY: Thousands.
RICE: Globally.
NOORY: Did they ever pay you for this?
RICE: No.
NOORY: Did you ever recollect an individual you were assigned
to or anything like that?
RICE: No.
NOORY: And this is all starting
to come back to you now.
RICE: Yes
NOORY: This is an amazing program.
There's a fellow by the name of Randy Cramer, a whistleblower.
I don't know if you know him.
He claims that he went through a secret space program,
as a number of people have.
Corey Goode is another one who has
mentioned that he's gone through a secret space program.
Your situation could be different from Corey's.
But let's look in on Randy.
RICE: Sure.
RANDY CRAMER: Project Moon Shadow
was the project which genetically engineered
and trained me and 299 other young boys
and girls, for a total of 300 of us, in the project.
We were all genetically engineered from the ground up,
Petri dish level, and then trained from pretty much...
I mean the programming, the sort
of teaching training programming starts at a infantile toddler
And then you start physical, like showing up
to physical locations for training, probably by 4...
4 and 1/2 years old.
So very, very, very young starting.
But none of those early stage training programs and so forth
are like really shocking or violent or scary or anything.
They're all just programs and training systems
designed to teach you hand-eye coordination, group
dynamic functions how to work as a team.
NOORY: Jason, does that sound familiar?
RICE: It does.
It does, with group dynamics, working as a team,
learning to work together, learning
to identify and recognize other people's strengths
and weaknesses.
NOORY: Might you have been in that program,
or do you think there are a number of others?
RICE: I have a strong feeling that there
are a number of protocol programs that they utilize.
And depending on your strengths and your individual weaknesses,
you will go to a specific program.
NOORY: How did they get to the point
where you don't have memory of this?
What do they do to you?
RICE: Throughout the program, because
of the technology and the medication
and pharmaceuticals that they have,
they are able to memory wipe you from the experience.
And then, when you're brought back
to go through additional training,
they're able to selectively turn on and off those memories
as needed to suit their needs.
NOORY: Which I think may be what happened to Sirhan Sirhan,
the assassin of Robert Kennedy...
RICE: Yes.
NOORY: ...who continues to this day
to claim that he has blanked out,
that he has no recollection of what he did even though he
was clearly there.
They grabbed a gun from him.
But he has no idea that he was there.
RICE: You look throughout history at the number of people
that have had that exact kind of thing happen, and it's...
to me, you can't have that kind of smoke without a fire.
NOORY: Case in point, Jason, while we're
talking about Sirhan Sirhan, of course
is his attorney, whom I know well,
William Pepper talking about the fact
that Sirhan Sirhan has no recollect on of what happened.
ADRIAN FINIGHAN: You touched upon it there,
events in that kitchen.
You can see then that your client was there
and that he fired his gun.
Take us through the scenario that you
believe developed there.
Why was he there, your client, with a gun.
And why did he fire it?
Sirhan was hypno-programmed in months
prior to the assassination.
He does not remember at all why he was there and what he did
and what happened there.
There s an indication of that, of course,
and it's been commented on by a number of people
who have seen photographs of him after the arrest.
I've spent nearly three hours with him not so long ago.
And it's quite clear that he still does not recall.
Now, he was told that he did this.
He was told that he was guilty.
And so he said, they told me this.
I don't remember it.
I was there.
I had a gun.
I actually discharged the weapon.,
He fired eight shots of that weapon,
a though six were fired when h s hand was
pinned to the steam table.,
So he said at the time, I guess I just assumed that did it.
And everyone told me that.
And his own lawyer at the time, of course his trial counsel,
was a fellow called Grant Cooper.
Now, Cooper was subject to an indictment during the time when
he was Sirhan's...
a federal indictment when he was Sirhan's counsel.
So they didn't even put up a defense.
NOORY: Jason, do you feel violated because of this?
RICE: Absolutely.
When first started really waking up in 2016, I was angry.
You know you go through the multiple steps of grieving?
NOORY: Yeah.
RICE: Anger is one of them.
NOORY: Was this done to hurt you'?
I mean, what was their intent?
Why take you?
Why not just take some volunteer who wants to do this?
And then we're going to get into the Secret Space Program
and what you think it is.
But why grab somebody and change his life
like they did to you instead of getting somebody to volunteer?
I mean, you've been in the military.
I've been in the military.
We probably would have volunteered for a program
like this.
RICE: Sure.
With full disclosure, you' have
a much fewer number of people actually volunteering.
But you'll still have volunteers.
They did it because they believed they were
doing the right thing for...
NOORY: They must have done things
to you that were very dangerous and serious that they
didn't want you to know about.
RICE: Yes, they did.
And they didn't want to have that type of tool
at free will use running amongst the population.
NOORY: Let's talk about the Secret Space Program per se.
What is it, in your opinion?
RICE: The Secret Space Program is
a number of different programs.
There isn't one.
There's a bunch of them.
The Air Force has their own.
The Navy has their own.
There's a breakaway civilization,
the Antarctic German breakaway civilization.
They have their own.
There's a number of different governments
on this planet that has their own secret space programs.
It's the use of advanced technology
for whatever their agendas may be.
It may be for dominance over their particular air space.
It may be for science.
It may be for control of their individual populations,
in that they are able to develop additional technologies to do
that.
NOORY: Do you think you have been an astronaut?
RICE: Not in any conventional sense, but yes.
NOORY: Have you traveled to the moon?
Have you traveled to the Mars?
Where have they taken you?
RICE: I've trained on Earth.
I've trained on the lunar operations command on the moon
I've been on Mars.
I've been on multiple other planets.
NOORY: How did you get to Mars, for example?
RICE: By shuttle.
NOORY: OK.
RICE: By shuttle.
NOORY: How many years ago?
RICE: This was originally in 1997.
NOORY: And how long were you there?
Do you have recollection of that?
RICE: The recollections I have...
the first training base that was at, George...
and giving this more thought as the memories come back,
we progressed to the base.
We progressed to the base by the tunnel system underground.
And we ended up in a large cavern.
And the cavern could have been anywhere.
They told us it was...
NOORY: But you believe it's Mars.
RICE: They told us it was Georgia.
NOORY: Georgia?
RICE: They told us it was Georgia.
And I'm very convinced that was disinformation on purpose.
NOORY: But you were on Mars?
RICE: I had a feeling...
NOORY: They're telling you it's Georgia
but you're on another planet?
RICE: I have a feeling it was off planet.
They told us in the \ briefings that we
would spend eight months in our first training in that cave,
and then the next six months would be spent on the moon.
And then the last four months would be spent on Mars.
NOORY: When you were around the age of 10 to 13,
what's going on in your life?
RICE: 10 to 13 in my life, I was
going through a lot of issues at home.
They look for families that have hard times because it's
much easier to manipulate what's going on, where the kids are
and what's going on as far as how
they can keep things hidden.
NOORY: What are they doing to you at this age training wise?
RICE: Training wise?
They're taking me out during school hours,
taking me to bases or to a local facility in which they're
doing additional training.
It could be anything from team building
to small individual combat tactics.
NOORY: Did your friends at the time...
do you remember your friends saying. Jason, where are you
all the time?
Why are you leaving us?
Anything like that?
RICE: No.
NOORY: At what times would they take you?
RICE: They would take during the school day,
but they would a so take me during the night.
Because I do remember occasions in which
I was at an abandoned mall.
NOORY: Did your parents know who they were at any point?
RICE: If they did, they were wiped of that information.
NOORY: The program was called First 20.
RICE: 20 and back.
NOORY: Tell me about that.
RICE: The 20 and Back program is
essentially, let's give you the opportunity
to serve your country.
Let's give you a chance to go out in space
and do some incredible things.
At the end of that 20-year period,
because you've been away from Earth,
we're going to give you a chance to go back right to the time
and point in which you left.
And you'll be able to continue on with your life.
That's the 20 and Back program.
NOORY: It's kind of intriguing.
RICE: It's very intriguing.
And the dangling of that particular fruit
in front of you, especially during an era
when Star Wars has just come out...
all the science fiction has been maturing
for the last 30 or 40 years.
There's lots of information out there
about what the potential is.
And so being able to participate in something like that
is an incredible motivator.
NOORY: So these recollections are
starting to come back to you.
Do you think at that time you were fully
aware of what was going on?
RICE: I was absolutely not fully aware
NOORY: Not fully aware.
RICE: No, I was not.
Absolutely not.
They don't give you full disclosure.
They don't tell you that they're going
to mind wipe you and erase the 20 years that you were gone.
On certain levels, you still retain that information,
in the higher levels of yourself.
That information s still there, even
though the chemistry of the physical body, it's gone
But the memories are still there.
And what they don't count on is they
don't count on that after the 20 years, memories are returning.
If they had told me everything, if they hadn't lied,
I probably would have made a different decision.
NOORY: Do you fee at this point
that they cheated with you?
RICE: Oh, they messed with me big time, George.
Part of the process that you go through
is they learn everything about you, all your buttons,
all your motivators, everything and anything physically,
emotionally, mentally, that works and doesn't work for you.
So as part of the out-processing,
they make sure...
another level of their diabolical planning
and controlling this information is if you start getting close
to the truth and asking these questions,
protocols kick in within yourself for self-destructive
behavior for self-destructive things that...
you think, why am I doing this?
But you end up getting so distracted
that you're too busy to even think
about some crazy government conspiracy.
NOORY: And I've got tote you, Jason, I've
interviewed thousands and thousands of people.
And I am not picking up from you any kind of deception.
It's a bizarre story, to be sure.
RICE: To be sure.
NOORY: And I'm looking forward to when
they hypnotize you and try to see f they can get some more
information out of you.
But I'm not picking up anything of deceit or anything
like that.
And I've got to commend you for that
RICE: Well, thank you.
NOORY: The late whistleblower William Tompkins, of course,
said on Gaia's ' Cosmic Disclosure" a little bit
about this.
WILLIAM TOMPKINS: They finished their Navy
20-year tour, and they make the selection to go back
to United States.
Now remember, during that 20 years.
they had no contact with their family or with anybody
back on Earth.
That's a prerequisite.
But they remember the family.
They remember their friends and the people
they used to go to and some of the girlfriends
they used to have.
And so they come back.
But they were 20 years older when they left the planet.
So the girlfriends are going to be a whole lot older.
And so the Navy has allowed them, n the Solar Warden
System Program, to go back to the age
that they were when they signed up.
Well, you said they were 20 years o d when they signed up.
And they went a 20-year Navy tour.
They came back, and now they're 20 years old.
And they are n a situation where
life is this 20-year-old life that they
had going when they left.
And now, during that several weeks returning,
their minds, not painfully, but their minds
are played with to where 90.99 of their memory for the last 20
years out in space is removed.
So they're sitting there now.
The girlfriend is the same age as she was.
Wait a minute.
She wasn't 20 years older like we said.
She's still the same age.
If he was married, his wife, the kids, were the same age.
They didn't spend 20 years more life.
So he comes... that's kind of a cool system.
Yes, that system is operation and has
been operating since 1980.
NOORY: Now that's bizarre, Jason.
Is that what happened to you?
RICE: That's very well spoken.
NOORY: Same kind of thing.
RICE: Same concept.
Except he said that it wasn't painful , and my memories
of the process...
NOORY: It was.
RICE: ...are actually very painful.
NOORY: So I was going to ask you
if you think something was so horrendous that
may have occurred that that's the reason why
they have to brainwash you.
Because it was maybe you saw some kind
of extraterrestrials that were evil or something
horrible happened and that the only way you could cope with it
to forget about it.
Possible?
RICE: That's a very interesting point.
Yes, there were some very horrible things
that we had to go through, that we
had to see, that we had to endure,
that we had to live through.
And no, that's not the reason why they wiped it.
The reason they wiped it was for operational securities.
NOORY: And they do that with drugs?
How do you think they do that?
RICE: They do that through a combination of pharmaceuticals
and technology.
The process that I went through involved what very similarly
looks to like a dentist's chair.
But you're plugged into all kinds of pharmaceuticals.
And they use scalar waves and a number
of other types of radiation or other medical processes
to for me, clean my system of the nanite and enhancements
that they gave us, but also to age
regress us back to the point from which we
left our original timeline.
NOORY: Jason, what are screen memories?
RICE: Screen memories are implanted memories
that they give you to replace the blank that they take away.
For instance, my training during childhood.
They didn't want me remembering and going
home and talking about it around the dinner table.
NOORY: Didn't want to tell mom and dad, did they?
RICE: Right.
Hey, guess what?
I was at an Air Force or Navy base today.
And they had me working with other kids,
and I was talking to them through these special devices.
NOORY: And I'm going to Mars.
RICE: Right, yeah.
So they will come in and mind wipe that portion...
NOORY: Screen you out, basically.
RICE: Yeah, erase it.
And then they'll come back in with that blank slate
that they've just created and say, you were at the aquarium.
You saw this shark.
NOORY: And that's what you remember.
RICE: And that's what you remember.
NOORY: Do you really want to remember what happened to you?
RICE: You know, that's a really good question, George.
And when first started waking up, I was so angry.
I said, gosh, I want to remember everything.
Darn it, they took all this from me and did all this to me.
Part of the personal growth that you
have to do, the personal work that I'm
convinced that you have to do...
I've learned that I don't really want to know all
until it's the right time.
Because some of the things I'm not ready for.
NOORY: You might not be able to handle the truth,
RICE: I might not.
And so some of the things that have come back to me
have been very painful.
And some of these things, originally, I
had to take a step back for six weeks
because t was so painful.
It was so emotionally disturbing to me.
NOORY: Do you tell friends about this?
RICE: I've told some close friends about this.
NOORY: What did they think?
RICE: The close friends that I've told,
I have been very selective about it.
And so they've been supportive.
They've been interested.
They've been open to it.
NOORY: Are they concerned about you?
RICE:They have been concerned about me.
They've been concerned about my safety
and, hey, what's going to happen to you if you come out
and talk about this?
NOORY: Have you weighed that?
RICE: have.
I've weighed that.
And part of this growth process has
been re-evaluating my definition,
my own personal definition, of life and death
and what the value of that is.
NOORY: You need to be careful Jason.
Because if they have taken the extremes to play with
your mind, erase as much as they think they can,
if you're going to go public with this...
and you're starting to, obviously,
on programs like this and everything else...
they could shut you up...
RICE: Sure they could.
NOORY: ...in their own little way.
Aren't you concerned about that?
NOORY: Of course.
Of course I'm concerned about it.
NOORY: Are you always looking over your shoulder?
RICE: It's funny.
Hearing Corey talk about having firearms
placed at different; places around the house,
I had to laugh when I heard that episode.
Because that was during my awakening
process, and I hadn't really put pieces together.
But I had already been doing that.
I was no more than an arm's reach away from a firearm.
NOORY: Just in case.
RICE: Just in case.
And so it gets back to the same concept of terrorism.
Do you not go outside because you're so afraid?
And I'm convinced that we still have to carry on
and try and spread as much love in just anything
that we're doing, take care of ourselves.
NOORY: How do you know you're out of the Secret Space Program
and that you're not still in it?
RICE: And that I'm not still in it?
I'd say that the way that I know I'm out
is that if I was still in, I wouldn't have the health
issues that I've got, is that they would take care of that.
NOORY: What's wrong with you?
RICE: I've got neck and back problems.
NOORY: Caused by?
RICE: I think that there is definitely
some origin in the Secret Space Program.
The technology that they used for healing,
while it is far beyond anything that we could ever
see in any hospital on Earth, it still has its limitations.
So I believe that they were able to fix me up a most as good
as new, but there were still some defects.
And so some of the problems that I've had
have been exacerbated because of the original injuries
NOORY: Why can't they heal you?
Why can't they use Star Trekkian medicine- right?
RICE: That's right.
NOORY: And wave a wand right over your back.
RICE: Well, in some ways, that's close to what they do.
But they're not gods.
They're still humans with very advanced technology.
And humans by definition are not perfect.
And so any technology that they've acquired or made
is still not perfect.
NOORY: They're not there quite yet.
RICE: Not there yet.
NOORY: Might you have been involved
in some kind of spacecraft crash or something like that?
RICE: Pretty sure that that was the origin of it.
But the information is sketchy.
I'd like to learn more.
That's one of the things I want to learn more about,
is the origins of that, as well as the shrapnel
that I've got n my body.
NOORY: So you were in for 20.
And then did you go back for a little bit?
RICE: I was in for my first 20 and Back.
That started when I was at 13.
And the reason I know that t was that year
was because that was the final year of my training.
And it was at that point that my maturity level
changed drastically, overnight.
NOORY: You went from a kid to an adult.
RICE: I went from a kid to an adult., yup.
missed 186 out of 250 something days of school
that year.
NOORY: When you're regressed back age wise,
do you go back into time 20 years ago?
RICE: Yes.
Part of out-processing from the 20 and Back program
is that the timeline that they originally picked you from,
separated you from, you're taken back to that.
And so when they return you to your original timeline,
they age regress you.
And as I mentioned, for me it was a painful experience.
t was about 10 days worth of hell.
NOORY: Would you go through t again?
RICE: If I absolutely had to, yes
NOORY: But do you actually feel that age when
they take you back 20 years?
RICE: You don't remember it.
But there are parts of your higher
self, parts of the self that do recall that.
It changes you, absolutely changes you.
NOORY: And then they bring you back to the reality of time?
RICE: They bring you back to the original timeline
where you departed from, drop you off.
Here you go.
Go back living your life.
We're going to watch you for a while.
NOORY: Well, how do you know you're out of it?
RICE: How do I know that I'm...
NOORY: That you're n in the program anymore.
RICE: Well, aside from being fed...
well, if I was still in, the memories
that I've got of my daily activities, they would.
not be as complete as they are.
And what that means is, since my awakening,
doing the person work, remembering more, and paying
attention to the here and now allows
me to remember more of what's going on.
NOORY: Sure.
RICE: The screen memories that they use, there's gaps.
There's lots of gaps.
And so when you have gaps in your daily activity
sometimes you space out.
And you're driving to work, and you
don't remember a particular field
that you've driven by every single day
work for the last two years.
And you go, wow, how long has that been there?
And the person next to you says, man,
that's been there for 10 years.
NOORY: And it's right under your nose
RICE: And it's right under your nose
It's those kind of gaps that you can
look at from your daily activities and say, OK,
do I remember picking up my toothbrush?
Yes, do.
Do I remember putting toothpaste on it?
Yes, I do.
Do remember buckling my belt?
Yes, do.
Those little things that they don't put generally
in screen memories is how I know that I'm not still in it.
NOORY: You were a second lieutenant in the United States
Army for how long?
RICE: I was a second lieutenant
for all of about eight months.
And that was my whole goal through college
was to make a career out of the US Army.
NOORY: And how did you get out of the Army?
RICE: I had medical issues that was honorably discharged
from the service for.
NOORY: So you're done with the military now.
RICE: Well, yes, I am finished with the military.
However, there is a particular document
that I have that has an indefinite expiration date.
It's my ID card that was originally issued.
Almost all ID cards that I've ever seen...
NOORY: So technically, you're still in.
RICE: Well, it could be said that I am.
I think that that was one of the mistakes that was made,
one of the human errors, was that they forgot to get that
or forgot to get that changed.
NOORY: Get your 20 in and get your retirement out
of it, Jason.
RICE: That's what I said.
But nope.
No, that wasn't part of the deal.
NOORY: That's not going to happen?
RICE: No.
During the original in-processing at the Fort
Indiantown Gap facility that I Was at, the original briefing
included a large section on your pay,
how much you would be banking
because you obviously can't spend it
when you're off planet somewhere... and the tens
of hundreds of thousands of dollars
that you would acquire after 20 years
that would be available to you when you return.
NOORY: And of course, you've gotten all of it.
RICE: Not a dime.
NOORY: Not a dime.
RICE: Not a dime.
NOORY: Will you ever collect?
RICE: No.
m not counting on that.
And you know what?
That's OK.
I said earlier, I wouldn't be the person I am today
if I hadn't gone through the experiences
that I've gone through.
And I value that much more than any money.
NOORY: What would you say to someone
who has been put through a program like this, who
is at a point where they are just beginning to understand what
happened to them?
How would you help them?
RICE: That's a very good question.
And I in many ways wish that I'd had somebody that
could have done that for me.
And the response that I would give is...
do the persona work.
That's more important than anything else,
than any memories, than any "what happened to me" question.
Do the personal work.
Work on yourself.
Find out the whys.
Why are you angry about it?
Why are you angry that they lied to you?
NOORY: Because they will get angry, won't they?
RICE: Of course, on one of those seven or nine
stages that you go through.
NOORY: Is it fixable for them?
RICE: Absolutely it's.
You're not broken beyond repair.
NOORY: Or alone.
RICE: Or alone.
And you're not going crazy.
And the best thing to do is do the personal work.
Find a counselor if you need help
to talk to that's not going to want to institutionalize you.
And you can be selective about the counselor
that you go find, or a good friend or somebody
that you can discuss with in an impartial manner.
Do the personal work.
Meditation.
Look at what you're doing every day.
Look at the self-destructive behaviors
that you're either avoiding or putting off.
And find a balance for them.
NOORY: Are you dealing with a counselor who just gets you?
RICE: I have in the past, but not currently.
Not currently.
The persona work that I've been able to do
I'd say over the last year has been heavily self guided.
And it requires a tremendous amount of discipline
and doing your own work, your own homework,
your own discernment
There's a lot of information out there,
and you have to be discerning on what you take in
and what you reject.
Parts here, parts there.
And when you get better at listening to your higher self,
or when you get better at listening
to what your heart's telling you, you get better.
And I'm in no way perfect at it.
I'm still learning, as I think the human journey is part
of that, is that you're learning the whole time if you are
open to it.
NOORY: You feel violated.
RICE: Yes.
NOORY: It's going on with a number of other people.
How do you feel about the fact that they
may be doing this with other little youngsters?
RICE: Oh. it's terrible.
NOORY: Training them along.
RICE: I have worried about that very thing
with my own children.
Was it done to them?
Are my children going through any of this?
Because how many other kids have to go through the mind
wipes and the violations and seeing the things
that they put them through?
Because one of the training procedures that they do,
George, is they expose you.
Because they've explored your entire psyche,
they know everything you're afraid of.
So if you're afraid of being burned alive,
through extensive virtual reality, you get burned alive
If you're afraid of drowning, guess what?
You get to drown.
NOORY: They mind play with you.
RICE: They mind play with you through every single one
of your fears.
All of them... falling, drowning.
NOORY: If you're afraid of demons,
they'll put them n your brain and stuff like that.
RICE: Bugs, snakes.
You name it.
They put you through every one of them.
NOORY: I don't like snakes or spiders.
So they'd be all over me, wouldn't they?
RICE: I still don't like spiders.
NOORY: What, they try to break you?
Is that what they do?
RICE: They're trying to desensitize you so that, if you
are in a situation where you have physical issues
or you have challenges, that you can call on that
and say, OK, that was my fear.
I overcame it.
I can overcome this.
NOORY: Let's assume for a moment, Jason,
that there was one person responsible for watching you,
for training you.
Maybe they were in their 30s when you were 2
They're probably dead now and they've been replaced.
But if you had that opportunity to confront
that person, that person who was responsible for dong
all this to you in the program, what would you say to them?
RICE: I'd tell them it was wrong.
Absolutely.
I forgive them.
NOORY: You do forgive them?
RICE: Yes.
And that was a really hard thing to come to.
Because I wouldn't be the person am today
if hadn't gone through everything I had to go through.
NOORY: Have you had crying nights?
RICE: Of course.
Waking up in tears, or days that you just
want to ball up in a corner.
Yes, absolutely.
NOORY: The recollection that is starting to come back to you
now, what is probably one of the most dramatic things you
can tell us today that you can recall?
RICE: Seeing a planetary bombardment by a kinetic energy
weapon and seeing
NOORY: Explain that.
RICE: ...thousands of people killed.
NOORY: Where?
RICE: This was during deployment on another planet.
Part of our mission was to help
because the program that I was involved with
was a false flag operation from the top down.
The alien entities that were in charge
of wanting to gain control over other planets,
they're not very attractive to most beings.
NOORY: In terms of appearance?
RICE: They're scarier than hell.
They look like demons.
NOORY: Kind of describe what they look like.
RICE: If you 'e seen any devil or demon in a Western
Christian
NOORY: With horns and...
RICE: Horns and tails.
NOORY: ...those funny tails and stuff.
That's what they look like?
RICE: Very close.
NOORY: Then maybe the description biblically
may have been them.
RICE: It probably was.
I'm convinced it was.
NOORY: All right.
RICE: They are the ones that are interacting with the humans
calling the shots.
And what they were doing is they were using humanoids
under the false threat of an alien invasion
on other planets.
Because the other planets thought
that they were going to get invaded
by some mean evil aliens.
And we show up.
We're here to help
Well, absolutely.
They have far beyond our technology.
There's no way we could stand up to them.
What can you do for us?
There's the foot in the door.
We're invited in.
NOORY: Help us.
RICE: Help us.
Well, the cost of being invited in
is you've got to turn over your planetary control to whoever
turns out.
NOORY: Have we done that?
RICE: We've done that on countless occasions.
Humans have helped enslave a number of other planets
through that process.
NOORY: In our solar system or outside of it?
RICE: Outside of our solar system, in our galaxy.
NOORY: The propulsion systems used to get you to these places
must be way beyond what we're using today.
RICE: Oh. they are.
NOORY: Is it ET propulsion?
What is it?
What kind of technology is it?
RICE: It was originally reverse engineered.
I believe some of it was channeled as far
as the information that was originally
obtained in the '30s for the first human devices
that were created for anti-gravity or temporal
travel.
The Germans were doing it in the '30s.
And so from there, that's where the breakaway civilization
went.
They took their toys and went down to Antarctica first.
NOORY: What an amazing story.
RICE: And the rest of the planet,
the rest of the cabal planet, it was either seeded by other
aliens...
hey, here's some technology for you.
It's crashed and mostly banged up,
but think you can do some amazing things,
like seeing in the dark or like fiber optics.
NOORY: And they've learned how to bend space and time,
I think.
RICE: Yes.
NOORY: That's how they travel, basically
through wormholes or something like that, instantly.
RICE: One instant you're in one place.
In the next instant you're in another.
NOORY: There you are.
Back to Randy Cramer again, talking about his involvement
on other planets.
CRAMER: I have said this...
20-year tour.
20-year healing process.
Just straight up.
There's no other way to look at it.
It was a 20-year tour and a 20-year healing process
before had a solid grip on what the heck was going on.
NOORY: So the Randy Cramer clip
that we just saw is much like what has happened to you.
This must be a real story.
RICE: Well, as I mentioned earlier,
George, where there's enough smoke,
there's going to be a fire.
And I think that the awakening process
that many are going through now and realizing
there is a shadow government...
they are doing things that are unethical, illegal,
and way beyond anything that's ever even come out so far.
NOORY: What do you think, Jason, the purpose
is of doing this?
Why are they doing this...
grabbing kids training kids, doing it?
Why is t so secret?
RICE: If they let us all know about the technologies
that they have, the people would be clamoring
for use of that technology.
NOORY: Of course.
I want free energy.
RICE: Who doesn't want an electric bill?
We wouldn't have to have one.
We could have a small device about the size of a shoebox
for all our power needs.
Never an electric bill ever again.
NOORY: Or a power outage.
RICE: Or a power outage
NOORY: You know. we're concerned
about the power grid going down from an EMP attack
or an X-flare from the sun.
This would help avoid that.
RICE: Yes.
You wouldn't have that.
Or another issue is, well, what about travel?
Well, shoot, you could get on a shuttle
and go anywhere you wanted to in a matter of seconds,
or minutes at the longest.
You want to go to London for lunch?
OK, let's go.
NOORY: Let's go.
Let's go from LA to New York in a half hour.
RICE: Or Jupiter or Saturn, anywhere you wanted to go.
NOORY: But that sounds positive.
That sounds great.
Why not do that?
Give it to us.
RICE: That's what I say.
The issue is that the mindset of these people
is that their self-worth is so tied up in control, feeling
like they've got this divine right of kings, which we all
know is the hogwash that it is, and that they
want to be separate.
And that's how they feel special.
That s how they feel like they have something
that other people don't, is they're
able to have this control over others
because they have technology, that they're
able to use technology and medical procedures that
are way beyond anything that's available now.
I had skin patches that healed wounds and melted
into the skin.
I had imp ants that fought radiation or enhanced
my vision and my hearing.
Any of the five senses were enhanced, as we I as
self healing abilities.
That's out there.
It's out there today.
NOORY: Jason, you are going to go through hypnosis.
You're going to take a lie detector
test to prove what you re saying is authentic.
You're still going to get people that say, you're nuts.
RICE: Sure.
NOORY: You're lying.
You're not telling us the truth.
What do you say to them right now,
those people who may be watching the program today?
What do you say to them?
RICE: I would say to them, do your homework.
Do your own research.
The information, the crumbs, are out there.
They're out there right now.
And connect enough of the dots.
And when the time is right, you' I be able to see it too.
NOORY: Can you understand how they feel?
RICE: Of course I can.
I absolutely can understand.
NOORY: You felt that way once yourself.
RICE: I felt that way once myself.
Oh, that's just a bunch of tinfoil hat talk.
I've got bigger things to worry about.
I've got to pay my bills.
I've got to go take care of my health.
I've got to look out for the security of my family.
That's part of the control program.
If you're so worried about your safety and security
and your well-being of your family
you're not going to be worried about little things
like extra technology or conspiracy theories.
NOORY: Outside of being a whistlebllower now,
have you contemplated hiring a lawyer
to maybe go after the government,
maybe sue them for what they've done?
They've taken most of your life.
And they've taken it away from you.
That's got to be worth something.
RICE: It is.
There is value to that.
And I think the value is going to be in exposing the lies.
I don't feel that going after them in a court of law
is going to be beneficial to the awakening that needs to happen.
Because what happens is that, in order to sue the government,
you've got to get permission from them first.
NOORY: And you've got to get an attorney...
RICE: That's willing to do it.
NOORY: ...who's going to be willing to take this on.
RICE: And everybody has to stay alive for t to happen,
which doesn't always happen.
NOORY: How's your life now?
RICE: It's amazing.
NOORY: You're happy?
RICE: I am.
I am.
NOORY: Could you always have said that?
RICE: No, absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
I have health issues, just like so many millions of others.
I have struggles every single day.
NOORY: How old are you?
RICE: 46.
NOORY: You're still a puppy.
RICE: And I have struggles just like everybody else.
I am no different than anybody else in that respect.
And it's all about how you center yourself every day,
and enjoying that moment and looking for the positive,
looking for the love of the day.
And there's so many different signs and signals for that.
NOORY: Are you able to sleep at right?
RICE: Yes, when health issues don't keep me from sleep.
But yeah.
NOORY: But I mean your mind is calm?
RICE:Yes
Yes it is.
NOORY: Are you concerned that under hypnosis you're
going to get more information that you really shouldn't get?
RICE: No, and here's why.
I mentioned a few minutes ago that at first
wanted to know everything, start to finish.
Give it to me.
NOORY: I don't blame you.
That was my first reaction.
It was, hey, I've been hidden from all this
for all these years.
There have been a number of instances and messages
that I've gotten from I ca I my higher self, in that, OK,
I'm not ready for it, all of it.
The parts that I'm ready for, they come to me.
They come to me through waking messages,
through flashes of memory, through dreams,
through any number of venues.
And so it's been a healing and a self process
in itself learning that, that hey, OK
So getting back to your question,
worrying about whether or not some
of the things that come out during hypnosis, if it's
going to be too much... no, because I know my higher self
won't allow that to happen.
Having relived some of the memories from the experiences
you asked a few minutes ago the most painful memory.
And having lived through seeing and being
able to zoom in on a kinetic energy
weapon, which is basically a meteor of a certain size
You get too b g and you're going to destroy a hemisphere.
And that's not what they wanted to do.
They just wanted to take out cities around
basically, dropping it in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico
would take out all the cities around the Gulf of Mexico.
NOORY: Did they take out Atlantis?
Something happened.
RICE: Something happened in Atlantis.
And until we get full disclosure,
my belief is that At an is happened
to be put under ice because of the tampering
that alien races were doing on this planet
to the indigenous population.
NOORY: Interesting.
Are you still in touch with anybody?
RICE: No.
NOORY: Done.
RICE: Done.
NOORY: Were you in touch with ETs at one point?
RICE: Yes, I was.
Very early in my childhood.
I had contact.
NOORY: For those that you remember
not the demonic ones, not the ones that looked like
the devil...
but were there good ones?
RICE: Yes.
There are many good ones.
On deployment, the indigenous races that we dealt with, there
were some insectoids that were...
just like here, you have good ones, you have bad ones.
You have bad apples just like you have the good ones.
That seems to be a pattern that's repeated
throughout the universe.
NOORY: Jason, what are you trying
to accomplish by conning public, by going forward with this?
What do you want?
RICE: That's a really good question.
And there are three things that I want
and the reason why I'm doing this.
The first has to do with getting the information out
about the Secret Space Program.
NOORY: And you're doing that now.
RICE: Yes, by doing that.
Because humanity has been involved in the enslavement
that aware of...
I know I was involved in at [east two other planets.
We've helped enslave at least two.
And that was just my unit.
And there were two divisions that were doing this.
So there are countless other planets out
there that humanity has helped to enslave.
Whether we take care of that, making
it right, tomorrow or next year or in 1,000 years,
is something that we're going to have to address
as a human race at some point.
NOORY: How did we at Gaia find you?
Or did you find us?
RICE: I found Gaia through the "Cosmic Disclosure"
NOORY: Program.
RICE: ...call for the whistleblowers.
It was an act of synchronicity I couldn't ignore.
It was the very next day after a "mallet over the head",
a-ha memory return.
Very next day
Within 12 hours.
NOORY: Did you hold back at all before you
decided to contact us?
RICE: I had been before that, because I was still
putting memory pieces together.
And then, as I said, at that one memory recollection
that came during a dream.
NOORY: If you pass the lie detector
test, and if under hypnosis more information comes out
about this, how will you personally feel ?
Travis Walton, for example, whom I know
"Fire in the Sky", claims he was abducted...
passed lie detector tests.
His friends who were with him at that time...
RICE: Also passed.
NOORY: ...passed lie detector tests.
If you pass this test, what does that tell you?
RICE: Well, it tells me what I already knew.
NOORY: Does help you personally?
Does it reinforce to you that what happened happened?
Because I still think there's a little part of you,
a really small part of you, that thinks,
did this really happen to me?
Or is my mind playing games with me?
RICE: I think having those test results will help me.
But I think more importantly, it'll
help some of the other people out there
that say. OK, this guy's just talking nonsense.
Because I know what I've experienced.
NOORY: And you're convinced it happened to you.
RICE: I am absolutely convinced.
NOORY: This is not a figment of your vivid imagination.
RICE: No.
Having gone through the memory recalls that have...
and again, over a 20-year period...
the different dots that occurred and making the connections
with those, even going back to my childhood, to me
is enough information for me to reach that kind of conclusion.
NOORY: Why didn't you come forward 10 years ago?
RICE: I wasn't convinced.
I wasn't ready.
NOORY: You're ready now?
RICE: I am.
NOORY: Full speed ahead?
RICE: Full speed ahead.
NOORY: Ramifications?
You don't care?
RICE: I do care, because I have family
and because I care about them.
As far as me personally, having gone about as low as one
I believe can be in my life and having
been at the very bottom...
And there are always possibilities of ramifications.
There are people all throughout history
that have, for instance, brought out new technologies.
And they get mired in false civil charges
and locked up on false charges for this or that.
And you never hear from them again.
Are there ways that they could shut things down?
Of course.
Of course there are.
But the information's important enough
and I feel strongly enough about it
that I'm willing to take that risk.
NOORY: What does your family say about this?
RICE: They're supportive.
They're supportive of me.
NOORY: Are they convinced that it happened?
RICE: They are convinced that I m convinced.
NOORY: I don't know what happened to you.
don't know what happened to you.
But I actually believe you believe what happened to you.
And that tells me everything I need to know.
RICE: Sure.
Sure.
And being able to, if nothing else,
open people's minds to the possibilities...
and think a lot of the changes that we're seeing here
in the US with people awakening to what's
going on behind the scenes with our own government
and the shadow government, that's
just the tip of the iceberg.
And being able to open people's eyes to that...
if we can reach one person and help them put context
to some of these strange memories
that they're having, to show them, hey, you're not crazy
you're not just imagining these things,
that there s a possibility of some more
information out there, of more experiences
out there than you ever even considered,
then I consider it a success.
NOORY: Thanks for being on "Beyond Belief," Jason.
NOORY: And good luck to you.
RICE: Appreciate that.
NOORY: Do you believe?
Really doesn't matter, does it?
Because it's an incredible story that
has some very real possibilities.
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